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Anyone know what "machine gun" was "recovered" during the

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by deen_ad, Jan 27, 2014.

  1. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    ATF's "sting" that was reported on in Sundays fish wrapper?

    I hope it wasn't a US legal AK or AR!


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  2. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    I have not, but maybe it tells somewhere here.?

    atf | OregonLive.com
     
  3. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Some excerpts from their operations.
    The second one is not far from what was done to Randy Weaver.In his situation is was totally innocent on Weavers part.

    Watchdog Report - ATF uses rogue tactics in storefront stings across nation
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    As they did in Milwaukee, agents in other cities offered sky-high prices for guns, leading suspects to buy firearms at
    stores and turn around and sell them to undercover agents for a quick profit. In other stings, agents ran fake pawnshops
    and readily bought stolen items, such as electronics and bikes — no questions asked — spurring burglaries and theft.
    In Atlanta, agents bought guns that had been stolen just hours earlier, several ripped off from police cars.

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    The agents told Johnson they wanted a "shorty" — meaning a sawed-off shotgun. Having such a gun —

    more deadly at close range and easier to conceal — is illegal and can mean additional prison time.

    Johnson left with the gun to go saw it off, but then called the agents to ask what kind of saw to use,

    said Steve Gradert, attorney for Johnson. The agent told him how to do it, Gradert said.

    In another case, Johnny E. Griffith brought in two AK-47s to sell. But agents only had enough money to

    buy one, according to court documents. Griffith, a felon, was allowed to leave with the other. Agents never recovered it.



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    Some guns were stolen from police squad cars. ATF agents said in court documents they tried to

    deter such thefts by paying less for police guns.

    The burglaries associated with ATL Blaze caused other problems for local law enforcement. Sheriff's

    deputies and local police — unaware the weapons had already been recovered by federal agents —

    scrambled around to solve the burglaries, spending untold resources interviewing witnesses.
     
  4. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Nothing there that identifies the "machine gun"


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  5. 41Slinger

    41Slinger Harrisburg Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Don't be surprised if you find out the "MACHINE GUN" is just another semi auto and the fish wrapper again doesn't know the difference or, doesn't care.
     
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  6. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    I didn't find it either, unless it was a cops rifle.??
    They would have played that one to the hilt. They don't know semi from select to machine gun.
     
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  7. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    ATF = Crime Boss from the sounds of it to me.
     
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  8. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Yes, using the terms 'assault rifle' and 'machine gun' is part of the narrative put forth by the antis and their cronies in the media. It really works too. I gave my brother a mossberg 590 for his birthday and one of the ladies gasped a bit when he opened it, and asked her friend if that was one of those assault rifles.

    Netflix has a great show on right now called "Big Boys Going Bananas"....check it out for an eye opening experience as to how big $$ owns the media and sets the narrative for the uninformed sheep to follow.
     
  9. Audrey

    Audrey Willamette Valley Active Member

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    Being anti and being ignorant are often the same thing, but thankfully education can reverse that. I hope someone calmly and clearly explained the firearm and the misnomer.
     
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  10. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    Truth is so far from their agenda that it could kick em in the nuts before they acknowlged it!