Anyone interested in the Tea party event this saturday?

[Blitzkrieg]

Ignoring CEF1959, the original Boston tea party was about taxes, taxes levied punitively without representation by a heavy handed egomaniac (Remind any of you of anyone today?) and was one of the earliest inspirations for a massive change that outlawed all such monarchs forever and gave us the right to keep and bear arms!

It was also about the Rothschild banksters behind the British throne, and their totalitarian machinations. One of these was the planned confiscation of arms and powder at Concord on one fateful spring day in 1775. My ancestors were there on the colonial side

To the troll... spew the vile crap you do on here in person and some fellow is likely to give you need for a serious dental surgeon visit

To fellow Tea people.. we are quite popular, read this

http://dailycaller.com/2011/01/31/poll-seven-in-10-think-the-gop-should-listen-to-tea-party-ideas/

 

[Blitzkrieg]

You're missing my point. Recall the phrase "Taxation without representation." The colonists were not against taxes, which the modern Tea-party appears to be.

Taxes were a TINY fraction of what they are today, and yet they came to blows over it

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Are they going to discuss infiltrating the union rally?

Tea Party Leader Plans to Infiltrate Union "Goons" | Mother Jones

I have friends and family involved in the Tea Party movement, they seem bent on the balkanization of America, not about freedom. The only freedom that they propose is for like minded people.

If I cannot save all of the USA because the rot is too great then I would prefer Balkanization, secession and freedom

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Back on topic, Troll aside...

When the Tea Party starts to protest the thousands of dollars I, as a Washington resident, working in Oregon, pay to the STATE OF OREGON every year, without any voice in how it is spent, then I'm on board.

That is an issue close to home that many of us here deal with, and the very definition of the taxation without representation the original Tea Party was all about.

C'mon, boys...Bring it. When you do, I'll go to your rally and wave a flag.

Why not come to the rally, ask for speaking time and make your case?

 

[Blitzkrieg]

I'm not on-board with the Tea Party myself but what I find amazing is the amount of vitriol those on the left spew about the Tea Party, it's just like Sarah Palin, if the left shut up about her they would figure out that they are the only people talking about her.

You only take flak when over an enemy position

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Your CHOICE to live in Washington and work in Oregon has nothing in common with the Original Tea Party. Trust me, sympathy for your "plight" ends at the I-5 bridge on your side of the river.

As for the Tea Party rally, no thanks. I'm not convinced the Tea Party movement is a genuine grass roots movement that actually wants to make America better rather than a group of like minded individuals who just want to get out of paying their taxes quietly backed by a few extremely wealthy individuals and businesses who also want to get out of paying their taxes.

It's grassroots and like millions you are simply making another excuse to do nothing while our country rots

 

[CEF1959]

I'm not on-board with the Tea Party myself but what I find amazing is the amount of vitriol those on the left spew about the Tea Party, it's just like Sarah Palin, if the left shut up about her they would figure out that they are the only people talking about her.

You don't think Sarah and the Tea Party are desperate publicity seekers? What, have they begun to work quietly behind the scenes all of a sudden?

 

[Bigfoot]

It appears that the idea of limited government has become radical again. Strange days indead.

I'm not a member of the Taxed Enough Already party....... yet.

 

[slingshot1943]

Judging the Tea party by their enemies, I love them!

 

[RB87]

Are they going to discuss infiltrating the union rally?

Tea Party Leader Plans to Infiltrate Union "Goons" | Mother Jones

I have friends and family involved in the Tea Party movement, they seem bent on the balkanization of America, not about freedom. The only freedom that they propose is for like minded people.

In my view, given the economic situation, a balkanization is inevitable if the economy truly crashes. Far too many disparate interests among regions and politics.

 

[donMiguel]

...the rise of reason...

:huh:

 

[donMiguel]

To the troll... spew the vile crap you do on here in person and some fellow is likely to give you need for a serious dental surgeon visit

Why not come to the rally, ask for speaking time and make your case?

 

[keystir]

It's grassroots and like millions you are simply making another excuse to do nothing while our country rots

Just because I don't support tea party causes does not mean I'm "doing nothing." At best the tea party believes in no government and fiscal neo-conservatism, at worst they are an astroturf organization funded/backed/ propped up by a few extremely wealthy individuals and businesses who want to get out of paying their taxes at the expense of everyone else. I believe in good government, a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people." As long as we have special interests running Washington it doesn't matter if your part of the tea party, republican party, democratic party, or nazi party our voices will not be heard. I believe the solution is as simple as publicly financed elections and term limits for elected government officials. I'm very leary of an organization that popped up out of nowhere complaining about high taxes (While the vast majority of Americans have paid less federal taxes under Obama than under Bush and NONE have paid more, not to mention federal taxes are the lowest they have been since 1950) and an expanding deficit (Not a PEEP when Bush was exploding the deficit) All the while being pushed into the national scene be a far right wing radical faux news organization. I'm sure the vast majority of Tea Party people are quality people who are worried just like the rest of us about the direction this country is going, I'm just not so sure the horses they are hooking their wagons to are who they say they are.

 

[CEF1959]

True conservatives don't engage in radicalism. They recogize there's too much at stake and that the risk of unintended consequences in radical ideas is real. So true conservatives tend to move cautiously.

Gold standard? Ok, have you analyzed what this means? Really? Are you sure you fully understand global monetary policy to be sure you know why you are right and most economists are wrong? Do you even understand the debate?

Sharply curtailing government? We're all for limited government. But what's YOUR plan in the TP movement? It's all pretty vague, and there doesn't seem to be any consensus aside from anger and slogans. Have you thought through what "smaller government" (as you understand it) means to (for example) roads, bridges, ports, police, fire, prisons, jails, your mama's SS, your dad's Medicare, the military defense of our homeland, tax collection, and banking regulation? You do understand, of course, that banks, monetary policy, and the regulation of both are critical to any modern nation, right? What's your plan for those things?

Have you thought through what this means to us as a nation (including people other than you), or are you just thinking selfishly, "I'll hunker down with my ammo and MREs"? If that's where you are, it's just selfish nihilism that is NOT going to make our country greater.

Or are you just so full of hubris you think your simple slogans and ideas will somehow work out in the end?

Slogans are easy. Anger is reflexive. Policy is harder.

 

[The Cheese]

All the while being pushed into the national scene be a far right wing radical faux news organization.

Is there any news organization that is not Faux? Seriously, I can't watch CNN or MSNBC with out getting pissed. Especially when they have their "stories" (no way in **** they are reports) on firearms. Seriously, if you think any news agency in the MSM is anything but a sock puppet there to sway the sheeple with their pseudo-facts and halfa$$ed, dumbed down journalism you are in a sad sad place my friend.

 

[Sawdust]

At the very least you can do is to try and be honest with yourself and others.
Based on what you have written herein and elsewhere, you are not by any stretch of the imagination, a "mainstream conservative" let alone any sort of conservative at all.
What I do glean from your writing is a lemming approach, parochial at best, paradigm of politics in general. An amalgamation of random ideologies that you've allow to be placed in your head without the benefit of critical, and objective thought.


Think about what you started in here....

All that the OP was wanting to do was to announce the Tea Party get together, but then you came in here and crapped all over it.

If you had any level of decorum and maturity, you would have started your own thread challenging the validity, the legitimacy, and the intelligence level of Tea Party Members, or whatever it is you've been attempting to do herein.
But no... You preferred to trash the OP's simple message of announcement.
Why the Mod's did not stop you, and prune your thread hi jack I do not know.
But now that simple announcement has been diluted by you, and admittedly by the rest of us who refuse to let your delusions go unanswered.

I tip my hat to you sir.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Just because I don't support tea party causes does not mean I'm "doing nothing." At best the tea party believes in no government and fiscal neo-conservatism, at worst they are an astroturf organization funded/backed/ propped up by a few extremely wealthy individuals and businesses who want to get out of paying their taxes at the expense of everyone else. I believe in good government, a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people." As long as we have special interests running Washington it doesn't matter if your part of the tea party, republican party, democratic party, or nazi party our voices will not be heard. I believe the solution is as simple as publicly financed elections and term limits for elected government officials. I'm very leary of an organization that popped up out of nowhere complaining about high taxes (While the vast majority of Americans have paid less federal taxes under Obama than under Bush and NONE have paid more, not to mention federal taxes are the lowest they have been since 1950) and an expanding deficit (Not a PEEP when Bush was exploding the deficit) All the while being pushed into the national scene be a far right wing radical faux news organization. I'm sure the vast majority of Tea Party people are quality people who are worried just like the rest of us about the direction this country is going, I'm just not so sure the horses they are hooking their wagons to are who they say they are.

You're making some huge leaps based on what the controlled media is telling you about the TEA membership

Personally I despise Palin and all neo cons and I am a genuine paleo conservative and Constitutionalist

 

[Bunny]

Fringe Group, Fringe Ideas, Lunatic Fringe, Nonsense. Hmm. Yup. I think that assesses the Tea Party movement pretty well. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

That's my point of view. And I hate to break it to you, but that's not an "alternative" point of view, but the viewpoint of most of us mainstream, traditional, conservatives. Tea partiers are hurting 2A, not helping. Sorry if you don't wanna hear it, but it's the truth.

If you think you speak for American Conservatives, you are wrong. We are not with you or any other sort of goofiness.

Mainstream conservatives now days don't differ much from mainstream liberals. Jus sayin.

And if you really are conservative, all the negative things you've said about the Tea Party in this thread only contribute to undermining your own base and all of it's issues. So who's really hurting 2A? If you were smart you'd focus on the ways in which you were similar and agreed, rather than dividing yourself and shooting yourself and your fellow conservatives in the foot.

 

[probasco]

Count me out. Not interested in any fringe groups with fringe ideas that would make Second Amendment supporters look like trailer-trash goof-balls.

But that's just me, because I care about 2A issues over the long term and am not aligned with the lunatic fringe of American politics.

If you want to engage in this kind of nonsense, I support your right to do so.

THE LUNATIC FRINGE IS THE LEFT RUNNING THIS STATE.....

 

[probasco]

OFF (OREGON FIREARMS FEDERATION) ENDORSED THE TEA PARTY AND ITS CANDIDATES.

IF YOU CALL THE TEA PARTY A FRINGE LUNATIC GROUP, THEN YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A MEETING NOR HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THEY STAND FOR (EXCEPT WHAT THE LEFT MEDIA HAS TOLD YOU TO BELIEVE)

THE IDEA THAT LIMITED GOVERNMENT, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND CAPITALISM IS A FRINGE LUNATIC SET OF IDEALS IS ABOUT AS CRAZY AS HAVING THE BRADY EXEC'S GO TO WORK AT THE ATF.

LIMITED GOVERNMENT, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND CAPITALISM
THESE ARE THE THREE PRIMARY GOALS OF THE TEA PARTY. SO UNLESS YOU WANT MORE GOVERNMENT AND MORE GOVERNMENT SPENDING AND SOME OTHER FORM OF GOVERNMENT LIKE SOCIALISM, THEN YOU ARE MOST LIKELY A TEA PARTY SUPPORTER IN A SMALL WAY.