Anyone bought some legal marijuana yet?

[No_Regerts]

Where's "here?"

I was a little surprised at prices in Portland. It was $40/8th street illicit price when I was a kid, and it's $45 for "good bubblegum" in the dispensaries now. Granted, that's still less, factoring for inflation, but I would have figured legal/tax free cannabis would be significantly cheaper than street weed.

I see Eugene is the place to be for deals, though.

Washington. Designer weed is far more expensive than medical dispensary weed. The gouger shops are trying to push legislation to regulate the medical stuff because they arent making money hand over fist like they thought they would.

 

[mrblond]

I would not worry about any of this. I am sure the NSA is already monitoring this site..

 

[The B]

The 4473s specifically ask..if you using illegal drugs or something in that nature. If it was legalized nationwide and federally, that's a different story, otherwise, why aren't those with the mmc cards allowed to get a ccw? Wasn't that a court case years ago in oregon?

It's a completely unenforceable, arbitrary, inconsequential question that no federal agent would ever waste a single brain cell pursuing, even if he could somehow prove you're addicted to or the unlawful user of cannabis.

And everyone knows that.

If you think cannabis and stupid and don't want to use it and think people who do use it are stupid, fine. But don't pull this bullbubblegum about how it's illegal. It's about as illegal as going 56 in a 55, except you're less likely to get in trouble for it.

 

[titsonritz]

So did they video record the purchase and finger print you?

 

[PrDubi]

Never said that....
My wifes niece and nephew uses an orally precribed version that improved a lot of the medicinal properties immensely.
They both have an auto immune disease but the doctor they used stated it to me that as a gun owner to be careful and federally I can be prosecuted l.

Should I believe a functional medicine doctor who prescribed it to them when I gave them a ride to the doctors office or should I believe a guy on the internetz named Ben?
I'm glad it's legal ...and I could care less about it...but when it's legal federally...I'll see a thing about or two.

 

[Khalsa]

Where's "here?"

I was a little surprised at prices in Portland. It was $40/8th street illicit price when I was a kid, and it's $45 for "good bubblegum" in the dispensaries now. Granted, that's still less, factoring for inflation, but I would have figured legal/tax free cannabis would be significantly cheaper than street weed.

I see Eugene is the place to be for deals, though.

35 different strains all $11/gram $30/eighth in Eugene

 

[The B]

Should I believe a functional medicine doctor who prescribed it to them when I gave them a ride to the doctors office or should I believe a guy on the internetz named Ben?

Given that neither of us are licensed to practice law, I wouldn't even be asking that question.

 

[Khalsa]

The 4473s specifically ask..if you using illegal drugs or something in that nature. If it was legalized nationwide and federally, that's a different story, otherwise, why aren't those with the mmc cards allowed to get a ccw? Wasn't that a court case years ago in oregon?

http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/01/supreme_court_oregon_marijuana_patients_can_keep_t.php

 

[The B]

35 different strains all $11/gram $30/eighth in Eugene

Even factoring for gas, that's economically worth it to head down for a 1/2lb..

 

[Khalsa]

Douglas county sheriff lost appeals all the way to the Supreme Court to deny medical Marijuana cardholders CHL's, so it is legal to have both as of now via federal Supreme Court ruling
http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/01/supreme_court_oregon_marijuana_patients_can_keep_t.php

 

[Siglvr]

I'll need to go buy some at some point. At least to say I did it. But then what do i do with it? Yell, "HAHA, I JUST BOUGHT SOME POT". Look around with a blank look, then give it to someone? I do have extra bourbon and wine layed out for guests, so I guess there is that, maybe just leave it on the buffet for social events?

Wouldn't be the first time I've done something like it. I'm glad the law finally changed and that the honest people who smoke it (many honorable folks I know, doctors, nurses, teachers, lawyers etc) are not threatened with jail time now, but I have no use for it. As far as that goes, I don't even sip a glass of wine while cleaning a gun after a range day. Best to be straight as an arrow anywhere near a firearm. But that's me.

Freedom and choices. A good thing for us all as long as it doesn't intrude on me or my thing. Do your thing (freak freely to your hearts content), I'll do mine.

 

[slimmer13]

It's a completely unenforceable, arbitrary, inconsequential question that no federal agent would ever waste a single brain cell pursuing, even if he could somehow prove you're addicted to or the unlawful user of cannabis.

And everyone knows that.

If you think cannabis and stupid and don't want to use it and think people who do use it are stupid, fine. But don't pull this bullbubblegum about how it's illegal. It's about as illegal as going 56 in a 55, except you're less likely to get in trouble for it.

Kind of like selling a gun across state laws or having a non 922r compliant Saiga. The chances are slim you would ever would be caught but it's not something I personally would throw out there in the interwebs just to be on the safe side. Ymmv

 

[DuneHopper]

If you are on the internet and one, own a firearm and two, are thinking about buying, using or stating you are involved using Cannabis.
Think carefully, many even in my county state that they will not comply with SB941 privately. Would you post that on here ?

If you are the owners of a firearm and openly on facebook or even here say you are using, buying etc.
Just think about the consequences of how these things can come back to haunt you.
It was mentioned Alcohol is the same thing, no its not . Alcohol is federally and state legal. Cannibis is not legal federally, and being firearms are monitored federally well you get the picture.

I don't use, don't plan too . I almost ate some cookies over the 4th of July.
Glad I didn't .

I do realize that legalizing Cannibis may have some good things about it, but there also many bad things about it as well.
As was noted I think people are forgetting its federally illegal. And most employers follow that legal process. I know a guy here that only smoked on his days off. He got canned after 27 years for failing his drug test two months ago and was retiring the end of the year, company policy also has him loosing his benefits as well. Now he will be looking at a very sad way of life. Hope he had an IRA. Cause he lost his pension.

 

[Khalsa]

If you are on the internet and one, own a firearm and two, are thinking about buying, using or stating you are involved using Cannabis.
Think carefully, many even in my county state that they will not comply with SB941 privately. Would you post that on here ?

If you are the owners of a firearm and openly on facebook or even here say you are using, buying etc.
Just think about the consequences of how these things can come back to haunt you.
It was mentioned Alcohol is the same thing, no its not . Alcohol is federally and state legal. Cannibis is not legal federally, and being firearms are monitored federally well you get the picture.

I don't use, don't plan too . I almost ate some cookies over the 4th of July.
Glad I didn't .

I do realize that legalizing Cannibis may have some good things about it, but there also many bad things about it as well.
As was noted I think people are forgetting its federally illegal. And most employers follow that legal process. I know a guy here that only smoked on his days off. He got canned after 27 years for failing his drug test two months ago and was retiring the end of the year, company policy also has him loosing his benefits as well. Now he will be looking at a very sad way of life. Hope he had an IRA. Cause he lost his pension.

Now that's absolute travesty, losing an entire life's work of pension for marijuana, irrelevant of your opinion of the substance he didn't deserve that... That's bubblegumed, at a federal level... Shouldn't proclaim success ending the U.S. gov's war on its own people, well until the federal "war on drugs" is over everywhere.
This is also due to multinational, muti-billion dollar pharmaceutical corporations lobbying against cannabis as a medical thx
Seizure of property is another very very common casualty of the drug war[emoji21] honestly we all know it's failed, miserably .. How many of the oldest generation of "weed hating, hippie hating, buzz-cut politicians" need to die off before we stop this stupidity...?
It's done nothing but institutionalize people for legal offenses create a prison industrial complex and made criminals rich-tax free
Treating drug abuse as a Mental health issue has proven far more positive in combatting drug addiction than this criminalization of mass populations of Americans

 

[The B]

Kind of like selling a gun across state laws or having a non 922r compliant Saiga. The chances are slim you would ever would be caught but it's not something I personally would throw out there in the interwebs just to be on the safe side. Ymmv

I wouldn't sell a gun across state lines without an FFL. I wouldn't sell a gun within state lines without an FFL. But if I smoked weed, I'd have absolutely no problem doing so and buying/enjoying my guns all I wanted. Prosecuting someone for transferring across state lines would be pretty open-and-shut. Prosecuting someone who purchased a firearm on a 4473 would likely be impossible (barring a confession, WOULD be impossible).

How do you define "illegal user of?" Maybe I smoked weed as a kid. Does that make me "a user?" What if I smoked weed in my 20s? What if I smoked weed yesterday, but I quit? I quit... that definitely makes me a former user, but not a "user." I can most def check "no" on that one. So what if I decide to take it up again tomorrow?

And "addicted to" we can throw out right from the outset. There's some evidence some select individuals who smoke heavily, chronically, can develop a mild physical dependence of a severity somewhere between chocolate and coffee addiction.... not gonna get the jury to even look at that one. No recreational cannabis user is going to self-identify as "addicted"

And lastly.... it's legal. In Oregon. Where we're talking about. Where's the mens rea, the criminal intent? It specifies "illegal user" in the 4473, implying there ARE, in fact, LEGAL uses. No? Does the wording of the federal law leave no room for the legalization of states? Does it implicitly prohibit legalization within individual states? I'm aware the current interpretation is that it's federally illegal, but I haven't studied the law, nor has my lawyer. The federal government isn't enforcing the law, by executive command as well as the inherent difficulties in getting prosecutions from a jury of peers over something that's LEGAL in the place it's being prosecuted.... so we have no test cases. Despite the probably tens of thousands of cannabis-smoking gun-buyers in our wonderfully liberal state.

There's so many holes in this crap I'm not even close to convinced it even is illegal, in any way, to purchase a gun from an FFL whilst pinching a smoldering joint between your teeth. "Illegal user of? Hmm, no... I'm an Oregon-legal user of!"

Nobody is "forgetting" it's (possibly) unconstitutionally federally illegal - they just aren't caring. Nobody is, except you guys.

 

[DuneHopper]

Now that's absolute travesty, losing an entire life's work of pension for marijuana, irrelevant of your opinion of the substance he didn't deserve that...

Ya it was pretty sad, even his bosses were broken up and tearing as he left.
Right or wrong its something people should be aware of Oregon is at will state, which also means the fact he was fired for illegal activity will affect future jobs if he tried to get one.
He contacted an attorney, and was told he knew it was against policy and was the same as if he had stolen property. His only recourse would be wrongful termination but with a failed drug test and admission of use which he did to get unemployment they gave him that much because of years in. But I think its only like 700.00 a month.

 

[clearconscience]

Never will.
I'm not a 15 year old taco bell eater.

I've have some bad experience with all this going down through work.
But I'm completely against it, I have young kids, it's sending the wrong messege to our youth. Kids these days are already lazy and have no sense of working hard or pride in their work. Wait until the next gen comes out.

This is just more of the liberal/socialist plan in my view. Keep people stupid and needing the gubment.

 

[clearconscience]

I'm already seeing people smoking weed while driving, and smoking weed in their cars before driving. Accidents and problems with children will skyrocket.
It's a travesty to moral thinking. Our society we give to our children is in ruins.

 

[U201491]

Well the news just announced they have arrested some guy driving a Prious in Portland for Killing a lady with it. Witnesses said he was smoking pot right before the crash and told cops he was High when they arrested him. My guess is many will die from this law. Many more than by any firearms.
Also betting that a good percentage of them will also be anti gun people. IRONIC

 

[DuneHopper]

I'm already seeing people smoking weed while driving, and smoking weed in their cars before driving. Accidents and problems with children will skyrocket.
It's a travesty to moral thinking. Our society we give to our children is in ruins.

Didn't you know, this is the instant gratification, no accountability society.