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Did I mention that they also have no credit and can't get a credit card?

Other than that, I agree with your last paragraph.

And likewise, my father went to work at the age of 13 when his dad died. He worked to support his widowed mother and 7 younger siblings.

They lived here...
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That's good history, but in terms of a 20 year old not having a credit card and no money, that's just ignorance and choices. You can get a credit card at 18 with nothing to your name, about a $300 limit to just build credit.
 
That's good history, but in terms of a 20 year old not having a credit card and no money, that's just ignorance and choices. You can get a credit card at 18 with nothing to your name, about a $300 limit to just build credit.
$300 is about 6 pizza and beer nights. Then they have to try to pay it back. About 90% of them think that this is free money.
 
$300 is about 6 pizza and beer nights. Then they have to try to pay it back. About 90% of them think that this is free money.
So the problem is really their own ignorance, just like most people's.

Also, personal choices in spending. Since I don't drink, don't smoke, don't drink coffee, or pop, and generally do a good job of stretching my dollars, I save money where I can so I can spend money where I want to.

I can teach basic finance and how a credit card works to 10 year old kids, if an 18 year old doesn't get it, they are willfully that ignorant.
 
That's good history, but in terms of a 20 year old not having a credit card and no money, that's just ignorance and choices. You can get a credit card at 18 with nothing to your name, about a $300 limit to just build credit.
Amen. Sears and Roebuck was how my long and illustrious credit history began, with a meager $200 credit limit, given to an 18 year old making $2.65 an hour. It's possible today as well, start small and work your way up.

It's about managing expectations and having a long term game plan, nothing is instant. Entertainment media does younger generations no favors in portraying young, affluent millionaires and billionaires. When 98% of society will work and claw their way to such riches, many at a much older age…. Some get their earlier, the right investment at the right time, but they're the exception, not the rule.
 
Amen. Sears and Roebuck was how my long and illustrious credit history began, with a meager $200 credit limit, given to an 18 year old making $2.65 an hour. It's possible today as well, start small and work your way up.

It's about managing expectations and having a long term game plan, nothing is instant. Entertainment media does younger generations no favors in portraying young, affluent millionaires and billionaires. When 98% of society will work and claw their way to such riches, many at a much older age…. Some get their earlier, the right investment at the right time, but they're the exception, not the rule.
$200 then was the equivalent of about $1000 now.
 
Does anyone recall me saying that anti-gunners would and have asserted that owning guns is a mental illness? Here we have an anti-gun advocate saying simply watching youtube vids about guns mean that you are mentally ill and therefore should not own guns. Circular reasoning; you shouldn't own guns because you are interested in guns - eventually that will transform to owning guns means you have an unhealthy interest in guns and are therefore mentally ill. They are already talking about our "obsession" with guns, how long have we been called "gun nuts" and anti-gun advocates portraying us as dangerous?
I have said this for decades.

Joe
 
When MY dad was seventeen he was running around helping to demolish police stations. Not in a crew of paid demolition specialists, but with a gang who saw the police as the frontmen of an authoritarian and vindictive occupying power, and which employed terror tactics on the population.

He was caught, in the end, and sentenced to fourteen years hard labour, a 'lenient' punishment because of his youth. Three months later, he was set free by the new Government, and promptly joined the Army, where he was embroiled in the country's brand new Civil War.

The country was, of course, Ireland.
 
When MY dad was seventeen he was running around helping to demolish police stations. Not in a crew of paid demolition specialists, but with a gang who saw the police as the frontmen of an authoritarian and vindictive occupying power, and which employed terror tactics on the population.

He was caught, in the end, and sentenced to fourteen years hard labour, a 'lenient' punishment because of his youth. Three months later, he was set free by the new Government, and promptly joined the Army, where he was embroiled in the country's brand new Civil War.

The country was, of course, Ireland.
Hmmm, very interesting...

Joe
 
I don't quite understand this part from the article:

Responding to the new information, Mrs Marshall-Andrews said: 'Anybody who has an interest in guns should not be a licensed firearms owner, they should not have a licence for guns.

So, should the only people able to be licensed firearms owners be those who are DISINTERESTED in guns?
 
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I don't quite understand this part from the article:

Responding to the new information, Mrs Marshall-Andrews said: 'Anybody who has an interest in guns should not be a licensed firearms owner, they should not have a licence for guns.

So, should the only people able to be licensed firearms owners be those who are DISINTERESTED in guns?
Mrs Marshall-Andrews, wife of 'Bob' the former politician, is the only one in the Gun Control Network [of four people and a dog] who can write. She is as big a loon as her husband, and as popular as a f*rt in an elevator. Basically, she is of the opinion that anybody who is interested in guns is already a dangerous psychopath, and under no circumstances should be granted a Firearms Certificate, which is what the authorising document is actually called. A measure of her lame-brainedness is that she appears to be unaware of the succinct and definitive DIFFERENCE between a license and a certificate.

Her opinion is not supported by a quick look at the membership of our gun club, which includes numerous workers in the National Health Services, male and female police officers, firefighters and ambulance crews, as well as serving and past members of HM Armed Forces. We used to have a vicar, but he moved to another part of the UK on promotion as Dean to a bishopric oop North.
 
Basically, she is of the opinion that anybody who is interested in guns is already a dangerous psychopath, and under no circumstances should be granted a Firearms Certificate,
This Mrs Marshall-Andrews sounds like a dangerous psychopath herself.

Anyone with an opinion so contradictory as to what she said is not mentally stable in their thinking and is potentially dangerous. Its people like her who are occasionally overcome by their radical thinking and take the 'If I can't have it my way nobody can' position and lash out and physically attack people who oppose them.
 

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