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Anti gun stupidity, HI melts $575k worth of guns,

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by clearconscience, Aug 31, 2015.

  1. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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  2. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    The taxpayers of Honolulu are really going to like how this turned out.
     
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  3. elsie

    elsie Way over there on the left Well-Known Member

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    I would have responded with "if the law-abiding citizen can't be trusted with firearms then you politicians can't be trusted with our money"


    elsie
     
  4. edslhead

    edslhead Vanc Gold Supporter Gold Supporter Silver Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Hmm, I wonder what they do with their retired officers?:eek:
     
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  5. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Melt all you want, we'll make more :s0121::s0130::s0085::s0003::s0014::s0015:

    What a bunch of idiots - they actually believe they will curb gun crime by doing this??? Any idiots that actually believe wasting public money doing this is worth it, well, they deserve what they get.
     
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  6. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    Yea well 'belief' or not that was a serious chunk of change for the city to decide for themselves what to do. These weren't 'their' guns - they belonged to the taxpayers.
     
  7. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I would be voting to take $600k out of the police budget for next year.
    If your going to burn it, you don't need it.
     
  8. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Hey, they don't end up on the street, stupids! They end up in my safe!:mad:
     
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  9. ConcreteJungle

    ConcreteJungle Eugene Well-Known Member

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    i don't really care that they melted it down. they were paid for and S&W will simply make more.
    my problem is with the nearly $600K that went down the drain. that's taxpayer dollars.
    the people there should really rally around this senseless decision and talk about recalling the politicians who wasted their money.
     
  10. Swedish K

    Swedish K SW Washington Moderator Staff Member

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    CA Dept of Corrections was going to destroy all of their HK 94s - soon after the CA AWB they pulled all of the MP5s from the prisons (mostly the women's and drug admit facilities) since they were "banned" even though there was exemption for LE. HK had offered to buy them all back at the price they sold them for (they were all "pre ban") or replace them with whatever they wanted. (most guard towers have mini 14s, 12 ga, and now 40mm launchers). The Lieutenant who was making arrangements for destruction had planned to put them through a shredder, have the shredded mess pressed into small blocks, put the blocks in the trunks of a couple junker cars, have them crushed, shredded, and recrushed. After notifying the governor's hotline for government waste that they were about to destroy somewhere north of $800,000 and that news outlets might be interested in the waste of funds they quickly back peddled and made the deal with HK. The glut of pre ban 94s on the market after that deal dropped the price by about $700 for better than a year.
     
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    dobeman Hillsboro Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    the problem with liberalism, it's always ok to act on behalf of the constituency aka taxpayers when you are convinced you are right and they don't need to know.
     
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    Deebow Portland Well-Known Member

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    Sounds to me like they have a problem in their armory with their arsenal technician (that some detectives ought to have a word with them about) if they are worried about those guns getting "onto the streets"

    Nice to know that they have 600K to burn through and wouldn't want to recover that investment.

    Talk about waste fraud and abuse. :cool:
     
  13. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    At $500 per gun this is over 1100 guns. How many cops does the city of Honolulu have?
     
  14. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    It's always easy to throw other people's money down the toilet. Doesn't hurt you any. Seems many politicians operate on this very belief. No reason to protect, conserve or use sound judgement on money you never earned yourself.
     
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  15. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Well part of the problem too is most if not all those firearms were perfectly fine, several brand new, but they opted to start off wasting tax payer money by purchasing new handguns they didn't need.
    Why switch to glocks just because everyone else is doing it?

    Tey should have never had the surplus to begin with.
     
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    AMT Vancouver, WA. Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    Apparently a 2,200-memeber force....


    Pulled from the article:

    "Some 2,300 Smith & Wesson 9 mm handguns, including at least 200 that are brand-new and in unopened boxes, were issued to the city’s police department. But with the 2,200-member force upgrading to lighter and less expensive Glock 17s, the guns were set to be permanently holstered. While it is customary throughout the country for departments to auction the guns to law-abiding citizens, including the police who once carried them, or donate them to another department, Honolulu opted to destroy them."
     
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    AMT Vancouver, WA. Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    Reading the article just make me scratch my head.


    Hawaii’s Department of Public of Safety recently replaced its Smith & Wesson firearms with different SIG Sauer models and received a credit of more than $150,000 for trading in its old guns. But Yu no trade-in discount was available and insisted “the only remaining option was to destroy the guns so they don’t end up on the street.”

    *** "Yu" is Honolulu Police spokeswoman Michelle Yu

    Now let me get this straight..... they made the decision to destroy the guns instead of selling them to law abiding citizens for an estimate of $575K.

    Are they, the Honolulu police department, afraid of selling them to unlawful citizens? Now, if the police department can't trust its own department to properly paperwork and background check purchasers, what is that telling the people of Hawaii???

    :s0124:
     
  18. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Maybe they were just trying make their prodical son BO happy?
     
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    blackadder Everett Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The implication is that even law abiding citizens are incapable of being trusted with guns.
     
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  20. ChiefStealth

    ChiefStealth Graham, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    No... they don't want law-abiding citizens to have the guns. Ya ever lived in Hawaii? You think California is anti-gun.. ya otta see Hawaii.
     
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