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Let's talk about school shootings. Something needs to change now. This isn't a job that our kids should do. This is a job for our elected officials to do. We need to force the elected officials that are too weak to do something or vote them out of office. They need to do something; we need to force them to do something because waiting and doing nothing isn't working. I know rich people like Paul Allen, Phil Knight and Bill Gates hide their money in foundations to avoid paying taxes because the Government will just piss off the money if taxed. They also spend lots of money to pass anti gun laws. Why don't they man up and assist our schools with protecting the children that someday may be working for them.

What have we learned about these killers since this all started. These Wolves don't care about people or laws. It's illegal to kill people, it's illegal to shoot people, and it's illegal to take guns into schools. Each one of these criminals broke laws; so we make more laws for them to break? We make them wait an extra week to purchase a gun? make them wait until they turn 21 hoping they change their minds? We put up more signs but they don't/can't read them. Each one wants to upstage the last. The kid in Everett Wa. Said he is learning from his predecessors so he can be a better killer. He wanted to add bombs which are illegal. So I say we change the rules to the game they play. We need more security measures, more teeth to the bite. Like any military operation you need to constantly change your tactics because the enemy learns to adapt.

Step 1. reduce access points.

Step 2. Screening like the airport.

Step 3. Armed guards

Step 4. The probability of armed teachers.

When Killers shot up the Malls they hired guards. When killers shot up our court houses they hired guards and screening; the same at Airports. Yet we allow anyone to access our most precious commodity our children. My local Police dept has more security then our schools and they have guns, judges carry guns, airplane pilots carry guns. Let's not put more guns in our schools why? You need access cards to enter most office buildings.:mad::mad::mad::mad:
We need to start #save our children movement.
 
This is the problem if they admit they need armed gaurds then they have to admit that the NRA was right THE ONLY THING THAT STOPS A BAD GUY WITH A GUN IS A GOOD GUY WITH A GUN.
 
Let's talk about school shootings. Something needs to change now. This isn't a job that our kids should do. This is a job for our elected officials to do. We need to force the elected officials that are too weak to do something or vote them out of office. They need to do something; we need to force them to do something because waiting and doing nothing isn't working. I know rich people like Paul Allen, Phil Knight and Bill Gates hide their money in foundations to avoid paying taxes because the Government will just piss off the money if taxed. They also spend lots of money to pass anti gun laws. Why don't they man up and assist our schools with protecting the children that someday may be working for them.

What have we learned about these killers since this all started. These Wolves don't care about people or laws. It's illegal to kill people, it's illegal to shoot people, and it's illegal to take guns into schools. Each one of these criminals broke laws; so we make more laws for them to break? We make them wait an extra week to purchase a gun? make them wait until they turn 21 hoping they change their minds? We put up more signs but they don't/can't read them. Each one wants to upstage the last. The kid in Everett Wa. Said he is learning from his predecessors so he can be a better killer. He wanted to add bombs which are illegal. So I say we change the rules to the game they play. We need more security measures, more teeth to the bite. Like any military operation you need to constantly change your tactics because the enemy learns to adapt.

Step 1. reduce access points.

Step 2. Screening like the airport.

Step 3. Armed guards

Step 4. The probability of armed teachers.

When Killers shot up the Malls they hired guards. When killers shot up our court houses they hired guards and screening; the same at Airports. Yet we allow anyone to access our most precious commodity our children. My local Police dept has more security then our schools and they have guns, judges carry guns, airplane pilots carry guns. Let's not put more guns in our schools why? You need access cards to enter most office buildings.:mad::mad::mad::mad:
We need to start #save our children movement.
Great posting and 100% accurate. I'm in total agreement, we need to secure our schools, period.

But this will never happen as long as the same ole socialists and liberals inhabit Washington, D.C.. We need a fundamental paradigm shift, one that does not punish the masses for the actions of the few. We need to change from this socialist agenda that's being implemented in this country.

It's time to vote these basturds out of office. Protect our children, protect our schools, leave our rights alone and stop trampling on The Constitution. If they violated any of those principles, they should be forcibly removed from office and replaced with a more competent legislator...
 
Imagine this we have thousands of combat experienced vet's out there some have close quarters combat experience kicking down doors in IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN .who do you think is going win this gun fight the kid or guy who just bought his AR or the guy who was trained .THERE IS TRAINED AND THEN THERE IS UNTRAINED .
 
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Let's talk about school shootings. Something needs to change now. This isn't a job that our kids should do. This is a job for our elected officials to do. We need to force the elected officials that are too weak to do something or vote them out of office. They need to do something; we need to force them to do something because waiting and doing nothing isn't working. I know rich people like Paul Allen, Phil Knight and Bill Gates hide their money in foundations to avoid paying taxes because the Government will just piss off the money if taxed. They also spend lots of money to pass anti gun laws. Why don't they man up and assist our schools with protecting the children that someday may be working for them.

What have we learned about these killers since this all started. These Wolves don't care about people or laws. It's illegal to kill people, it's illegal to shoot people, and it's illegal to take guns into schools. Each one of these criminals broke laws; so we make more laws for them to break? We make them wait an extra week to purchase a gun? make them wait until they turn 21 hoping they change their minds? We put up more signs but they don't/can't read them. Each one wants to upstage the last. The kid in Everett Wa. Said he is learning from his predecessors so he can be a better killer. He wanted to add bombs which are illegal. So I say we change the rules to the game they play. We need more security measures, more teeth to the bite. Like any military operation you need to constantly change your tactics because the enemy learns to adapt.

Step 1. reduce access points.

Step 2. Screening like the airport.

Step 3. Armed guards

Step 4. The probability of armed teachers.

When Killers shot up the Malls they hired guards. When killers shot up our court houses they hired guards and screening; the same at Airports. Yet we allow anyone to access our most precious commodity our children. My local Police dept has more security then our schools and they have guns, judges carry guns, airplane pilots carry guns. Let's not put more guns in our schools why? You need access cards to enter most office buildings.:mad::mad::mad::mad:
We need to start #save our children movement.
You are on the mark.......but these are public schools and the general public is responsible to foot the bill. It will cost most of us but it is worth it for many reasons, not the least of which is to protect law abiding citizens 2nd amendment rights. At this point these school shootings are largely a function of social media and copy cats. Taking the notoriety out of the equation would help a lot. Off course we can not discount the mental illness subject either. Your solutions would solve 90% of the problem but surveillance of social media and dealing with mental illness will help long term improvement for our society in general. We are whitnessing what happens when people turn over child rearing to the village and live too close together without boundaries or guidance.
 
It's time to vote these basturds out of office. Protect our children, protect our schools, leave our rights alone and stop trampling on The Constitution. If they violated any of those principles, they should be forcibly removed from office and replaced with a more competent legislator...

We've been saying that for years, decades actually. With our Country being so divided and the Leg's only wanting another term I seriously doubt they'll do anything. We need Statesmen not Politicians...but I digress.
 
There is two or three examples of what if the teachers where ARMED in this last shooting the teacher that open a class room and let kids in and locked it and was killed blocking the door the football coach that used his body to sheld kids and was killed the ROTC KID that helps kids in a room and is killed blocking the door.if any of those three where armed fight is over right there or at least slowed down till help arrived.
 
When the internet raises our kids rather than mom & dad, mom & mom, mom & Grandma, dad & dad, grandparents, etc. kids get inoculated with the incessant mania coming through the screen. Unplug and make your kids get a job, paper route, go outside with a bb gun in the woods, anything to get away from the insane drivel being flung by both sides.
As adults, particularly those of us who grew up before the rise of the Net we are equipped with the critical reasoning skills to separate the bubblegum from the truth. That only happens with interpersonal interaction.
#OffTheBox
 
There is two or three examples of what if the teachers where ARMED in this last shooting the teacher that open a class room and let kids in and locked it and was killed blocking the door the football coach that used his body to sheld kids and was killed the ROTC KID that helps kids in a room and is killed blocking the door.if any of those three where armed fight is over right there or at least slowed down till help arrived.
Do you remember the teacher that went to his car, got his 1911 and stoped a school shooting in one of the Kentucky/Tennessee (?) states?
 
I would take a teacher TRAINED with a Glock 19 against a guy with a AR ANY DAY over a guy with a AR AND A TEACHER WITH A FIRE EXTINGUISHER . even though everyone here knows to take a rifle over a hand gun but a hand gun is better than nothing .WITCH IS WHAT TEACHERS HAVE NOW... NOTHING
 
Hell I bet Andy with his cap and ball pistol or one of his muzzleloader Rifles would be able to stop a guy because he has been combat training and experience
 
Can I use something other than a Glock?...:D
No offense to Glock guys and gals...
If I had to carry at school it would be of these...( excluding the .22 )
Andy
I would take a teacher TRAINED with a Glock 19 against a guy with a AR ANY DAY over a guy with a AR AND A TEACHER WITH A FIRE EXTINGUISHER . even though everyone here knows to take a rifle over a hand gun but a hand gun is better than nothing .WITCH IS WHAT TEACHERS HAVE NOW... NOTHING
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I've expressed these same ideas as well, and continue to do so. I think we all need to keep sharing these ideas with anyone that will listen. I can't figure out why, but many people are against doing these things. But I think most, if not all, gun owners would be behind these ideas - especially since they would actually solve the problem without infringing on our rights - and perhaps that's why many oppose these simple, common sense, and proven effective, ideas.
 
Andy you can use what ever you want .lol I just said Glock 19 because it's easy to use and pretty much anybody can be trained to use one.like I said I don't care if you had a musket strapped on your back it's better than nothing
 
In a first very basic move, we need to outlaw unions from all government organizations. The teachers union is a huge obstacle to the type of improvement. They have to be neutralized before we could institute any of these ideas. Like the railroad unions in the 50's that wouldn't allow the position of fireman to be eliminated on locomotives after the job was eliminated by technology.
 

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