Another Judge who has no idea what they are talking about..thoughts?


I cant see this doing anything but being overturned and this judge looking like a complete idiot but what are your thoughts and how do you see this playing out if its not overturned?
I really don't see how it wouldn't be overturned if it had the chance of appeal.

Heller is so grossly obvious in meaning if you have ever read it.

Further "Common use" is a term that shows up twice in their verdict. It is not exclusive toward "who" is using the firearm.

Is the AR-15 "commonly used" by police?
The answer is, yes.

Is the AR-15 platform "commonly used" by our military?
The answer is, yes.

Is it a choice for many others who hunt, sport, or enjoy having it for self defense?
The answer is, yes.

In short, there is not test under which the AR platform (any semiauto platform for that matter) would fail being in "common use."

Hopefully an appeal will be granted.

I agree, this judge does not understand firearms. But reading thru the decision, and from what else I've read about how the plaintiffs made their arguments, vs the State; It didn't sound like they did their homework. If they don't do their homework in the appeal and make a stronger case, then it's going to fail again.

As for overturning it:

From the US vs Miller decision last century. I wonder when someone is going to leverage this court decision:
"The Court cannot take judicial notice that a shotgun having a barrel less than 18 inches long has today any reasonable relation to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, and therefore cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees to the citizen the right to keep and bear such a weapon."

Right there: "assault weapons" are protected under the 2nd amendment. I think the anti-s might be able to push back with some type of extra regulation on being able to own one. But outright ban? No.
Exactly what you'd expect from an East Coast Ultra-lib judge. I don't know why anyone is surprised at this.

That she made that statement in the ruling speaks VOLUMES for poor showing by the people trying to defend 2A. As usual in these forums (courts) "Our" side does an abysmal job of simply demonstrating functionality of firearms side by side.

The Heretic

A judge that totally buys into the BS of the anti-gunners.

Totally doesn't know the history and purpose of the Second Amendment.

Totally clueless about what an "Assault Weapon" is (outside a legal definition, there is no such thing).

Overturned? Given the current SCOTUS, maybe - if they hear it.


Arms Collectors of SW Washington Gun Show
Battleground Community Center
912 E Main St, Battle Ground, WA 98604, USA
Rimfire Challenge Dec 12th @ DRRC
Douglas Ridge Rifle Club
27787 OR-224, Eagle Creek, OR 97022, USA
Albany Rifle & Pistol Club (ARPC) Gun Show
Linn County Expo Center
3700 Knox Butte Rd E, Albany, OR 97322, USA


  • Gator's Custom Guns
    5.00 star(s)
    Best true Gun shop ive been in for some time
    Cool stuff in stock rather than the top 10 at corporate box stores They moved to a larger place I have to go back and spend more money. I like to...
  • Adaptive Firing Solutions
    5.00 star(s)
    Adaptive Firing Solutions. A+
    5 stars does not do Adaptive Firing Solutions justice. I have done business with him multiple times and wish I could give at least 12 stars...
  • Limitless America
    5.00 star(s)
    Awesome shop
    Love this shop. Purchased a few items from them. Always have a lot of parts in stock without much markup. Purchased two cans this summer from them...
  • Gator's Custom Guns
    5.00 star(s)
    Great, old school gun shop
    The store is a treasure trove I have found magazines for H&K, Ruger and M1A's and at great prices. The staff is knowledgeable and friendly and...
    • GWS
  • HighLine Firearms
    4.00 star(s)
    great place
    nice guy, local
Top Bottom