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Another dipwad

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by greydog111, Jun 16, 2010.

  1. greydog111

    greydog111 peoples repubilik of Oregon Active Member

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    Well, another dipwad has done it!
    The Oregonian has a story today about another concealed carry person shooting his friend accidentally and killing him. He said he was practicing tactics for a robbery or some such crap. Hope they put him away for a long time. The story says he was arrested on a measure 11 crime. minimum of 72 months for manslaughter. The only positive part is that he killed his friend with a 380acp. So much for the lack of stopping power of the 380, EH?
    Greydog.:(
     
  2. snew

    snew Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    This thing should be more common so it's not "news" anymore. No one reports DUI deaths or accidents like they're news yet they're more common. I thnk it would be good if half of you go out and have an "accident". If you're uncomfortable "accidentally" taking another's life feel free to make it self-inflicted. It's a win for everyone because either way, before long we won't have any more of these sorts of threads starting.
     
  3. greydog111

    greydog111 peoples repubilik of Oregon Active Member

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    snew, WTF? where are you coming from? are you advocating that all ccw permit holders accidentally kill a friend? Please clarify your post! Self inflicted? Are you advocating suicide? If so, please get to the front of the line!
    Greydog.
     
  4. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    I hate to say it, but it's a numbers game. With the dramatic rise of CHL holders you will naturally see a commensurate rise in these types of incidents. Even though the statistical percentage of these type of incidents vs the total number of CHL holders is probably the same as it was a few years ago. Unfortunately, the MSM will report these with glee.

    I would be interested to see actual numbers to see if my theory is correct regarding the percentage of accidents/incidents with CHL holders. Anyone seen any stats?
     
  5. snew

    snew Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    I think cougarfan's got it wired. Just get used to it and try your best to explain it to people around you who are talking about it that way. We don't need more threads like this. :thumbup:

    To answer your question, yes, it was mostly tongue in cheek but there's some truth to it. There's very little public outcry about drunk driving anymore but a shark bites a surfer and everyone's on a shark hunt. What's "news" and what isn't? It's considered that everyday, mundane things aren't. If this was everyday then it wouldn't be news AND we'd have the added bbenefit of of taking the accident prone out of the loop, thus making the whole world safer for the rest of us. See? The more I read the more disappointed I am in my "peers". All the "we" look bad again threads and the hyper sensitive bandwagon a lot of you jump on really is sad. It almost seems as if the lot of you guys are going out looking for stories like this, making you as bad as the new outlets. And, people like that the rest of us have no use for.
     
  6. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Here's the story BTW. Anyone here know this guy?

    http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2010/06/court_documents_say_gresham_ma.html

    This highlights something I do for safety and I've taught my boys and that is to leave if you find that someone is just being reckless with a gun, if someone is legitimately servicing a gun in your presence you should never be afraid to ask them to safety check the gun and/or safe check it yourself.
     
  7. greydog111

    greydog111 peoples repubilik of Oregon Active Member

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    I think it is time to remove the a**hat and admit that we have fools amongst us. There is no way to ignore the situation or diminish it! Self policing won't work. The lefty lamestream media will do what it will do no matter what we say. Education is the only answer and if we stick our head in the sand, it leaves the most vulneravble part of the human anatomy exposed to be kicked. Fight back by educating all your friends who ccw about stupid and unsafe practices. The statement that if this is an "everyday occurrence the media will ignore it." is distressing to say the least. That leaves the question, will a shooting everyday desensitize the media to the point of non story? Seriously? Surely you are misstating your point. Please rethink!
    By the way, if you think I go out of my way to find these storys, you are sadly mistaken. I read the stinking Oregonian only to get a preview of the "enemy's" war plan. Greydog.
     
  8. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    Idiot.


     
  9. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    With the age demographic I have a hunch that one or both these guys may have been members.

    It looks like 3 people were involved.
     
  10. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Key words:

    "playing" "Loaded gun"
     
  11. Tilos

    Tilos Idaho Active Member

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    Yup, a total of 3 Richard Craniums in one place at the same time right there.
    Just sayin'
    Tilos
     
  12. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    These incidents actually become 'teachable moments' for my son.

    I'll tell him what's read in the news and I'll ask him what is wrong from the information I give him. He normally get's most if the major items correct.
     
  13. biggie24420

    biggie24420 Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    They need to do an IQ test before they give out CHLs I think lol I plan on doing some drills with weapon retention and how to use a firearm in a self defense situation. I am gonna go buy a toy cap gun and use that when I practice.......... not so hard to use common since, what is wrong with these people?
     
  14. Brandon44647

    Brandon44647 Portland Member

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    And ALCOHOL ....... :thumbdown:
     
  15. madcratebuilder

    madcratebuilder Ardenwald, OR Well-Known Member

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    Always has been and always well be. CHL holders are just regular people and a certain percentage of regular people well do stupid things.
     
  16. chemist

    chemist Beaverton OR Well-Known Member

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    Trismn correctly identifies the "age demographic" that's most at risk. A reasonably intelligent and functional man who purports to know better than drink & DRAW nonetheless goes ahead and does so.
    Sure, go ahead and blame the booze - to me it's just a symptom of the young-immortal-male syndrome.