And so it begins !!

[Just Jim]

Yes, he's a very talented lawyer and can certainly get another job now, earning twice as much money as he currently does filing lawsuits that you'd no doubt consider frivolous. Instead he chooses to work in public service keeping criminals off the streets (without, I might add, the overly generous PERS and other benefits previous generations of government workers had). If he were laid off, he'd do fine. But there'd be dozens and dozens more identity thieves, chop shop operators, and other scum with nobody around to prosecute them.

I guess he really needed your help to keep his job. He needed 750 million from Oregon taxpayers to fight crime in a time when Oregonians are hardest hit with unemployment. I guess you see it that important to hurt some of your neighbors so the government can live the good life on the hard work of others.

jj

 

[ZachS]

I guess he really needed your help to keep his job. He needed 750 million from Oregon taxpayers to fight crime in a time when Oregonians are hardest hit with unemployment. I guess you see it that important to hurt some of your neighbors so the government can live the good life on the hard work of others.

jj

Your histrionic response to these modest tax increases is ridiculous. I mean, I understand where you're coming from - and you're bringing up important issues, but if you actually believe that measures 66 and 67 will cause Oregon businesses to start dropping like flies, I feel sorry for you.

 

[Mutoman]

When it's all said and done, nothings been said or done besides that government is a little bigger and prices are a little more. I envision a future where the sea levels have risen and the government has grown and crowded to the shores. Tax payers have been forced to live in the water, most drown. With no one left to support government's massive spending it begins taxing itself into dust......game over, world better.

Sorry, ran out of anxiety meds.

 

[LogicBomb]

im a truck driver and JUST GOT HIT with a .2 a mile pay CUT! everyone is tightening up the belts CEPT for the .gov....in a bad economy you DONT raise taxes and ecp DONT vote yourselves a payraise...I know a guy who has a small machine shop in PDX and he told me that if this tax increase hits him hard hes movin to Vancouver

 

[Just Jim]

Your histrionic response to these modest tax increases is ridiculous. I mean, I understand where you're coming from - and you're bringing up important issues, but if you actually believe that measures 66 and 67 will cause Oregon businesses to start dropping like flies, I feel sorry for you.

Feel sorry for yourself, the government is spending your money faster than we make it. Are you a government employee?

jj

 

[LogicBomb]

business is not gonna "drop like flys" in Oregon...they are just gonna move to a more tax friendly state

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

Actually it would be more like 1 million in gross sales. And the way I read it, this is charged on the gross sales not net profit.

Only the minuimum is based on gross sales. That means to be affected to that extent by the minimum tax you would have to have sales in the range of 7-12 million dollars. If you are just paying the rate increase on your base taxed money (meaning you do not get away with paying the minimum tax like I do not) you would have to have a ADJUSTED TAXABLE (not gross) income of around $800,000. That sounds like quite a diner to be pulling down those numbers. Open your eyes people, you are being lied to and manipulated and the liars are hoping you are too angry to simply pick up a calculator.

 

[ZachS]

Feel sorry for yourself, the government is spending your money faster than we make it. Are you a government employee?

jj

Nope, a grad student - and I just dodged a major tuition hike.

 

[slingshot1943]

The estimated revenue divided by state population= $47 per person per year so multiply that by the number in your family and you can see the impact on life in Oregon. That's not a lie that's math.

 

[Just Jim]

Nope, a grad student - and I just dodged a major tuition hike.

I am sure the people of Oregon are happy you could vote and save you money while taxing them. Funny thing is you are a young man and you voted to screw your future. Do you plan on working for business or government??...

jj

 

[PMKN_PI]

Stands to reason there are people here that voted for it or the measure wouldn't have passed. Easiest why to find out who is post the way I did.

jj

The worthless Bolshevik pigs of Multnomah and Lane county got this thing passed. I think eastern WA and eastern OR should try to secede from the respective states and form one state east of the rats nest. I really hope a war between us and them starts soon, Id love to just...well...you can guess what I want to do to these people.

 

[Just Jim]

The estimated revenue divided by state population= $47 per person per year so multiply that by the number in your family and you can see the impact on life in Oregon. That's not a lie that's math.

So where did you get your numbers The new taxes are a sales tax. You are going to pay them. Would you like people to vote yes on raising your taxes and making it retroactive to last year? They did and you will pay, business doesn't pay taxes, you do in higher prices or lost jobs.

jj

 

[Just Jim]

The worthless Bolshevik pigs of Multnomah and Lane county got this thing passed. I think eastern WA and eastern OR should try to secede from the respective states and form one state east of the rats nest. I really hope a war between us and them starts soon, Id love to just...well...you can guess what I want to do to these people.

With 47% of the electorate working for the state or recieving state dollars it allready is us vs them and they won the battle this time. If you want them to win the war then just keep voting for them. Violence is no answer but education isn't working so the people are going to learn the hard way as the dollar collapses due to government spending out of control. Gonna be the worst kick in the... well it's gonna hurt.

Thank god I don't owe any money You are reading the post of a free man without debt. I saw this comming years ago nobody listened back then either

jj

 

[PMKN_PI]

Heres my email I sent to the president of Oregon SEIU...and im copying it to the people under her...

Here is the latest victim of your rape of the taxpayer and private sector business. Hopefully one of these ruined business people gives back to you what you have done to them. I intend to update you all on the pain this causes each and every person that I find that has been hurt.

"Business owner: Measure 67 death blow for diner"
<broken link removed>

READ IT.

You rats need to see what you have done and hear about it day in and day out.

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

So where did you get your numbers The new taxes are a sales tax. You are going to pay them. Would you like people to vote yes on raising your taxes and making it retroactive to last year? They did and you will pay, business doesn't pay taxes, you do in higher prices or lost jobs.

jj

We (businesses) don't pay taxes? Wow, I am glad you just told me that. Here I was about to send in this coupon with my tax payment to the state on Monday. I am so glad to hear I do not need to send it now.

 

[ZachS]

I am sure the people of Oregon are happy you could vote and save you money while taxing them. Funny thing is you are a young man and you voted to screw your future. Do you plan on working for business or government??...

jj

I'm not that young, I'm 30 years old and I've been working (primarily for private companies, but also a couple of years for the government) since I was 16. I'm in law school, plan to start my career as a public defender, and then work as a trial lawyer either for myself or for a small private firm. At some point in my career, hopefully sooner rather than later, I'll be subject to the higher income taxes I voted for. And I'm fine with that.

 

[Just Jim]

Soon as I get retired I will be gone from this place and let the socialist pay their own taxes. It's what they want to move people out but still I will be happy to go. Should be booming in other states as people move out of the socialist ones.

jj

 

[ZachS]

The worthless Bolshevik pigs of Multnomah and Lane county got this thing passed. I think eastern WA and eastern OR should try to secede from the respective states and form one state east of the rats nest. I really hope a war between us and them starts soon, Id love to just...well...you can guess what I want to do to these people.

If Eastern Oregon were a state, it would be one of the poorest in the country. Big-city taxpayers have been subsidizing it for years.

 

[Trlsmn]

The estimated revenue divided by state population= $47 per person per year so multiply that by the number in your family and you can see the impact on life in Oregon. That's not a lie that's math.

Glad to see someone gets it!

 

[Just Jim]

I'm not that young, I'm 30 years old and I've been working (primarily for private companies, but also a couple of years for the government) since I was 16. I'm in law school, plan to start my career as a public defender, and then work as a trial lawyer either for myself or for a small private firm. At some point in my career, hopefully sooner rather than later, I'll be subject to the higher income taxes I voted for. And I'm fine with that.

Kinda figured you would in some way be tied into the government and you must think it's wonderful to vote a tax on the backs of people to pay your way. I applaud your honesty but tell you I think you made a mistake but then who am I ? Just one of the guys you are making pay your way.

Are you handicapped in any way that you can't pay your own way??

jj