"And I just racked it, and they ran."

[rufus]

There hasn't been a mention of a gun in the last 55 posts give or take. How is this thread still living if there are no politics allowed?

This is what occupies my holster(s).

 

[locobob]

This is what occupies my holster(s).

Not bad at all

 

[locobob]

This has been occupying my wallet lately.... just added a Gieselle SSA-E trigger and it still needs more capable glass.

 

[Grunwald]

There hasn't been a mention of a gun in the last 55 posts give or take. How is this thread still living if there are no politics allowed?

You just mentioned it. Thanks for saving the thread.

oh and GUN!!

 

[rufus]

I fear one day soon I'll go to a news site and read about one of these bozos getting shot, and for what? Anarchy in the USA? In <broken link removed> , it sounded like Mr. Tagami was ready to deliver. This could happen in any one of these "occupied" cities.

This silly game of "protesting" could get deadly very easily, and that would be a shame. I wonder what the politicians that have endorsed this thing would say if someone dies while causing civil disobedience. Let's hope we don't find out.

 

[Kevatc]

It's cause I'm getting dog-piled by the ultra-right, some of the mods are okay with politics as long as they think their side is winning lol

Yes, I know. Double standard going on for sure.

 

[rufus]

Yes, I know. Double standard going on for sure.

I know, it's so unfair. Let's review what we've learned:

Just curious, what would the cause be? I can never get a straight answer.

The cause is fairness. The occupiers want some arbitrary fairness wage ratio to be applied to all private sector businesses. That way everything will be fair. Oh yeah, and forgive all debt. And free healthcare, education, and whatever else would be fair. Just don't call it Socialism!

It's never easy to get to the bottom of all things liberal. It takes mental gymnastics to follow the logic, but in the end it still makes no sense.

Oh yeah, guns.

 

[civilian75]

My two cents:

When I hear "Occupy_____", the images that come to mind are Tiananmen Square, the Storming of the Bastile, and more recently Egypt's, Libya and other recent Middle Easter states "revolutions". What do they all have in common? The common folk freedom and general welfare has or will end up worst shape than before. Whatever is driving these revolutions has a very shaky foundation (to put it mildly). Regrettably, Iraq and Afghanistan will not fare much better not because it was the US who "liberated" them, but, because the very same issue: the Foundation of the country in question.

We in the US are heading in the same direction unless a few good men and women continue watch over this country in prayer and resisting injustice whenever the opportunity arises.

 

[The B]

i'd like to think my fellow Americans are a little more inventive than those other countries. a day may come when bloody revolution is the only option left to us in this country... but i don't think we're to that point or past the point of no return. we do still at least appear to have a usable republican democratic process in this country, and if these kids put as much effort into night school at PCC as they do walking around chanting (not much), they might actually be able to effect the change they're crapping out our parks for.

i've never said these dumb, smelly kids aren't justified in being angry- they are, and some of them even for the right reasons. but they're going about it all wrong, and making fools of themselves.

 

[osterr1999]

CEOs do not choose their salary. They are made an offer by a board of directors. If the board feels like a CEO is worth $20 million a year, that's their business. If the board pays someone too much and they do a bad job, they won't be on the board for long. Why are we trying to tell private businesses how much they can pay their employees? That is really not American. How about we let people keep more of what they earn and let them spend it how they like? What if we allowed businesses to run the way they want and pay their employees what they want to and if they fail, we let them? How's that for freedom? I don't want the government to tell my boss how much to pay me. If I do a good job and am not getting paid what I think I am worth, I will get a new job. Simple as that. If people made choices in their life that have lead them to a place where they have no other choice but to work a dead end job, it's certainly not my fault. I went to college. I paid for it. I didn't major in basket weaving. Now I have a good job. I wasn't entitled to a good job, I worked for it. Funny how that works.

 

[Chee-to]

This guy tells it like it is...........

 

[Tangent123123]

The people who are really getting f*cked are the ones still going to work every day to pay for the foodstamps and free whatever for those who are hanging out in a park and occupying wherever are getting. It's the middle class that's taking it in the shorts right now. But we're too busy going to work and keeping the cogs grinding away for such foolishness. A bunch of hippies sitting in a park isn't going to solve the problem.

It's going to take something more dramatic by the large middle class to make a real difference.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

This guy tells it like it is...........

I wish I could "like" this more than once.

 

[Grunwald]

CEOs do not choose their salary. They are made an offer by a board of directors. If the board feels like a CEO is worth $20 million a year, that's their business. If the board pays someone too much and they do a bad job, they won't be on the board for long. Why are we trying to tell private businesses how much they can pay their employees? That is really not American. How about we let people keep more of what they earn and let them spend it how they like? What if we allowed businesses to run the way they want and pay their employees what they want to and if they fail, we let them? How's that for freedom? I don't want the government to tell my boss how much to pay me. If I do a good job and am not getting paid what I think I am worth, I will get a new job. Simple as that. If people made choices in their life that have lead them to a place where they have no other choice but to work a dead end job, it's certainly not my fault. I went to college. I paid for it. I didn't major in basket weaving. Now I have a good job. I wasn't entitled to a good job, I worked for it. Funny how that works.

That's the theory, unfortunately the reality is much different. Yes a CEO will make whatever the board of directors deems appropriate for that CEO might be. However, the chances are extremely high that this CEO sits on someone else's board of directors where he will decide what someone else is going to make. The corporations are owned by shareholders and the board of directors is supposed to represent the shareholders and uphold something called fiduciary responsibility. Unfortunately most of these people feel zero responsibility to the actual owners of the corporations. They are there to game the system and skim off as much as they can get away with.
I could go on and on about how the system is screwed up, but I'll stop right here.

 

[marty8587]

That's the theory, unfortunately the reality is much different. Yes a CEO will make whatever the board of directors deems appropriate for that CEO might be. However, the chances are extremely high that this CEO sits on someone else's board of directors where he will decide what someone else is going to make. The corporations are owned by shareholders and the board of directors is supposed to represent the shareholders and uphold something called fiduciary responsibility. Unfortunately most of these people feel zero responsibility to the actual owners of the corporations. They are there to game the system and skim off as much as they can get away with.
I could go on and on about how the system is screwed up, but I'll stop right here.

What He said!!!

 

[Riot]

CEOs do not choose their salary. They are made an offer by a board of directors. If the board feels like a CEO is worth $20 million a year, that's their business. If the board pays someone too much and they do a bad job, they won't be on the board for long. Why are we trying to tell private businesses how much they can pay their employees? That is really not American. How about we let people keep more of what they earn and let them spend it how they like? What if we allowed businesses to run the way they want and pay their employees what they want to and if they fail, we let them? How's that for freedom? I don't want the government to tell my boss how much to pay me. If I do a good job and am not getting paid what I think I am worth, I will get a new job. Simple as that. If people made choices in their life that have lead them to a place where they have no other choice but to work a dead end job, it's certainly not my fault. I went to college. I paid for it. I didn't major in basket weaving. Now I have a good job. I wasn't entitled to a good job, I worked for it. Funny how that works.

You are abso-freekin-lootly right about this...except I'd be pissed too (and still kinda am) that we (the US tax payer) was forced to bail out these huge companies...then the CEO gets a huge bonus off of my money. Mostly I'm pissed at our dumb@ss government for bailing out these companies...stating that they were "too big to fail". Seriously, wtf does that even mean? I mean, these CEOs ran to congress on their personal jets to beg for more money. I say let them fail! Maybe breaking down the unions and restarting over wouldn't be a bad thing. It's called CAPITALISM, not SOCIALISM. Bah, I know I'm preaching to the choir....just a sad state of affairs, really.

Regardless of who is pointing the finger about who is doing the screwing, we're losing touch of reality that we (the tax payer) are being screwed...and these CEOs are holding us down while the government is doing it. No matter how much we feel and dissagree with it, that's the way it is. We're printing more money, bailing out the banks and even other countries with our money. This kind of crap has been going on for way too long...while we have to pay more for everything and just accept the fact that we are probbly going to be paid less while the rich are still getting richer.

 

[locobob]

That's the theory, unfortunately the reality is much different. Yes a CEO will make whatever the board of directors deems appropriate for that CEO might be. However, the chances are extremely high that this CEO sits on someone else's board of directors where he will decide what someone else is going to make. The corporations are owned by shareholders and the board of directors is supposed to represent the shareholders and uphold something called fiduciary responsibility. Unfortunately most of these people feel zero responsibility to the actual owners of the corporations. They are there to game the system and skim off as much as they can get away with.
I could go on and on about how the system is screwed up, but I'll stop right here.

Yep! The "market mechanism" that is supposed regulate executive compensation is broken, the interests of the shareholders and those of the board/management are often not in alignment.

 

[rufus]

You are abso-freekin-lootly right about this...except I'd be pissed too (and still kinda am) that we (the US tax payer) was forced to bail out these huge companies...then the CEO gets a huge bonus off of my money. Mostly I'm pissed at our dumb@ss government for bailing out these companies...stating that they were "too big to fail". Seriously, wtf does that even mean? I mean, these CEOs ran to congress on their personal jets to beg for more money. I say let them fail! Maybe breaking down the unions and restarting over wouldn't be a bad thing. It's called CAPITALISM, not SOCIALISM. Bah, I know I'm preaching to the choir....just a sad state of affairs, really.

Regardless of who is pointing the finger about who is doing the screwing, we're losing touch of reality that we (the tax payer) are being screwed...and these CEOs are holding us down while the government is doing it. No matter how much we feel and dissagree with it, that's the way it is. We're printing more money, bailing out the banks and even other countries with our money. This kind of crap has been going on for way too long...while we have to pay more for everything and just accept the fact that we are probbly going to be paid less while the rich are still getting richer.

I agree 100%.

The bailouts were a travesty. If a corporation/bank/whatever cannot fail (artificially), then the flood gates are open to widespread corruption at the expense of the US taxpayer. Diddling with the system should not be tolerated!

 

[greydog111]

Um, no... no it doesn't. Try turning off Conservative talk radio and thinking for yourself

What? And listen to the Mainstream media koolaid drinkers? Where do you propose we get an unbiased account of the facts? from the "occupiers"? Your moniker seems somehow appropriate just now.

 

[greydog111]

I was going to say that, but thought.. naw, what's the point?

Name change needed. Bob/Marx?