An 'Interesting' Experience Last Night.....

[RVTECH]

My next door neighbors are excellent people I have come to know very well over many years. I have helped them many times with a couple RVs they have owned, and other typical 'neighborly' type things and they me as well. They have often invited me over for outdoor parties & BBQ they have had.

Well, last night I heard them outside and their outside TV was on and they were watching the OR/AZ game. Well they were whooping it up and clapping so I walked over to the fence and said jokingly 'Hey you guys shut the F up ! your too loud" to which they laughed and said 'Get yer azz over here and have a beer with us' which is normal.

OK , so over I go, get a glass and pour a beer out of the keg (a good IPA) and we get to talking about this and that. It was just them and one friend who I have gotten to know informally as he is over often.

Well about a half hour goes by and somehow covid comes up and they mention they have a friend who is only 42 with no other conditions who is deathly ill from it and in the hospital.

Well, so my neighbor asks, 'Are you vaccinated' to which I say no and he looks at me oddly and then begins to apologize for what he is about to say and informs me he and his female partner (long time unmarried) have decided they are not going to allow anyone NOT vaccinated to be in their home and are doing their best to stay as safe as possible. He essentially explained how he wasn't as concerned so much last year but he believes it is worse this year and didn't want to take any chances.

Well, he continued to apologize, and tell me how good of friends & neighbors we have been and although he didn't actually say it he was obviously asking me to leave. He was very apologetic and remorseful but it was obvious I needed to leave to which I did respectfully. Regardless they are both very intelligent and rational, however I would have never guessed they would take this approach to the current situation.

I don't really know why I posted this other than maybe some 'pep' talk would help. I understand their house their rules but this is a first for me, I.E. experiencing a 'personal' issue that has arising from the pandemic, and no pun intended but very 'close to home'.

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[mrblond]

amazing though when something actually effects someone you know changes your outlook on things. I know a couple who were against the jab until a relative died from it. they both went and got their 1st shot.

Its like the people who have no care for people with cancer, until they, or someone they know get it.. suddenly its the most important thing in the world.

 

[Ura-Ki]

This is an unfortunate side effect of the Covid, one that has been tearing friends and families apart for a while now, folks who are highly intelligent and seem to know what's what! However, this has brought out the evil in folks, even close family, and it's only going to get worse! So far, I have had friends tell me I'm stupid for not getting the Fauxie Ouchie, that I'm not welcome until I'm fully vaxed ( if at all) and that they don't wish to discuss any of it, and not to bother to call! I have had family do the same, it's like a life time of knowing someone and then finding out they are a serial killer of some such, really changes how you see folks, just as how they see you! All those relationships no longer matter to folks, they only care about themselves, and now you know who among them all!

 

[Hop Sing]

I think it's just that some people are more careful than others. It was nice (I think anyway) that the neighbor made what effort he could to apologize for their stance.

 

[Xaevian]

It shows respect in the way they apologized. It's not about you, it's about them, and it would be good for you to not make it about you also. Those are good neighbors. Keep that relationship. It seems ypur feelings might have gotten hurt a little, but that's ok, normal because you care. It showed respect that you graciously accepted their choice. Good on you!

 

[bigbearbear]

That's it, I need to put up a "Unvaccinated Persons Not Allowed" or "Unvaccinated? Get Lost or Get Shot." sign out front to keep those neighbors away.

Seriously though, I think your neighbor is a good guy and is simply watching out for him and his girlfriend. Nothing wrong with that. His house, his rules.

 

[Lilhigbee]

Had a similar experience recently. Friend of 20 years asked if I wanted to do a four-day road trip to the salt flats. Sure!! We're making plans over the phone and he says, "You've been vaccinated, right??". No, I haven't. Conversation ends with much "That's a deal-breaker", "you have your beliefs", "I'm deathly afraid of this stuff", etc. He's been vaccinated, but apparently it only works if I have been too?? Anyway, he and his wife are hard-core socialist, give-everything-to-the-government-and-they'll-do-what's-right types and it isn't unexpected. Still friends, but not sure when or if I'll ever see him again.

 

[Certaindeaf]

For all anyone knows the vaccinated are the typhoid marys incubating evermore deadly strains in their holier-than-thou bodies.

 

[slimmer13]

It would be nice if the filthy unvaxxed would just have to have some sort of brand or scarlet letter so everyone knows who to shun and throw poop at.

 

[titsonritz]

For all anyone knows the vaccinated are the typhoid marys incubating evermore deadly strains in their holier-than-thou bodies.

That is exactly what is happening. I caught covid from a vaxxed person who also got sick.

 

[Jay Walk]

If they were good people then they probably still are.
Sucks but they can do what they want and you as well, for now anyways.

They must get groceries through home delivery too and not do any in person teaching

 

[RVTECH]

It's not about you, it's about them, and it would be good for you to not make it about you also. Those are good neighbors. Keep that relationship. It seems your feelings might have gotten hurt a little, but that's ok, normal because you care. It showed respect that you graciously accepted their choice. Good on you!

Nope - no making it about me at all.

Yes they are good neighbors and I plan on keeping the relationship.

Yea, my feelings maybe hurt a bit but yes, I respectfully accepted their choice with no issue.

 

[Dungannon]

My wife got a call from one of her cousins in California last week. He had gone to his father's funeral while feeling under the weather. A week later he felt like he had all the classic signs of COVID and went to the hospital. After spending the night they sent him home and told him to quarantine for two weeks.

Of course he contacted those that attended the funeral to let them know. His wife, six cousins and his mother tested positive for COVID. His mother died a week later - two weeks after his father's funeral. The two relatives that had been vacinated had mild reactions. The rest of them did survive after the 'worst week of their life' but are still feeling the after effects. Time will tell if any have 'long COVID.'

 

[Alexx1401]

Well, he continued to apologize, and tell me how good of friends & neighbors we have been and although he didn't actually say it he was obviously asking me to leave. He was very apologetic and remorseful but it was obvious I needed to leave to which I did respectfully.

Now, whether or not it matters or is an influencing factor they are both schoolteachers and both very intelligent and rational, however I would have never guessed they would take this approach.

I don't really know why I posted this other than maybe some 'pep' talk would help. I understand their house their rules but this is a first for me, I.E. experiencing a 'personal' issue that has arising from the pandemic, and no pun intended but very 'close to home'.

You just got to see first hand why most in the US were willing to pretend the Constitution does not exist, fear. Those who have long dreamed of police state power finally stumbled on a way to get it, instill real fear. When mass's get real fear they no longer are rational. They no longer hear facts. The Vaccine is great. Those who choose to take it need not fear those who do not but, media who is the tool of the police state have drummed out daily that they need to fear you. You saw it first hand how it works. Sadly by the time most of the rights we take for granted are finally gone those who gave them up out of fear will find its too late to change their mind then. Very sad to watch it happening but, I will enjoy it while it lasts I guess.

 

[BBQ Guy]

My next door neighbors are excellent people I have come to know very well over many years. I have helped them many times with a couple RVs they have owned, and other typical 'neighborly' type things and they me as well. They have often invited me over for outdoor parties & BBQ they have had.

Well, last night I heard them outside and their outside TV was on and they were watching the OR/AZ game. Well they were whooping it up and clapping so I walked over to the fence and said jokingly 'Hey you guys shut the F up ! your too loud" to which they laughed and said 'Get yer azz over here and have a beer with us' which is normal.

OK , so over I go, get a glass and pour a beer out of the keg (a good IPA) and we get to talking about this and that. It was just them and one friend who I have gotten to know informally as he is over often.

Well about a half hour goes by and somehow covid comes up and they mention they have a friend who is only 42 with no other conditions who is deathly ill from it and in the hospital.

Well, so my neighbor asks, 'Are you vaccinated' to which I say no and he looks at me oddly and then begins to apologize for what he is about to say and informs me he and his female partner (long time unmarried) have decided they are not going to allow anyone NOT vaccinated to be in their home and are doing their best to stay as safe as possible. He essentially explained how he wasn't as concerned so much last year but he believes it is worse this year and didn't want to take any chances.

Well, he continued to apologize, and tell me how good of friends & neighbors we have been and although he didn't actually say it he was obviously asking me to leave. He was very apologetic and remorseful but it was obvious I needed to leave to which I did respectfully.

Now, whether or not it matters or is an influencing factor they are both schoolteachers and both very intelligent and rational, however I would have never guessed they would take this approach.

I don't really know why I posted this other than maybe some 'pep' talk would help. I understand their house their rules but this is a first for me, I.E. experiencing a 'personal' issue that has arising from the pandemic, and no pun intended but very 'close to home'.

That is something I'm waiting to have happen. Probably from somewhere/somebody unexpected.

I will say it seems like all parties handled it with grace. Best of luck in keeping the friendship intact going forward.

 

[L84Cabo]

Fear of death/dying often transcends logic, reason, facts, etc. And the media and political elites have done a very good job of making people really scared.

For example, according to the "Potato in Chief," you have a 1 in 160K chance of ending up in the hospital on a breakthrough case, if you're vaccinated. The odds of dying are obviously even greater. So you literally have a better chance of dying from lightning, a dog bite, a bee sting, or drowning, than you do from the WuFlu, if you're vax'd. But fear is immune to logic and reason.

It's a bummer that this has impacted your friendship. But it sounds like they were very polite and respectful about it. So in my book the friendship is recoverable if and when this thing blows over. I won't end a friendship with someone simply because they have a different opinion on things. I will end a friendship for someone being rude, disrespectful, hostile, etc. And it doesn't sound like they were any of those.

 

[gryghin]

That is exactly what is happening. I caught covid from a vaxxed person who also got sick.

Here is the link to the current information from the CDC.
I think each person should make their own informed decision on how to handle dealing with this disease, the key though is "informed" which a lot are just using conjecture and opinion.

I have family members that are in the medical field and have witnessed first hand the effects of this disease. It is real.

Key facts after reading through the CDC information:

Vaxxed and unvaxxed are both potential carriers.

Vaccine will lessen the symptoms of the disease.

In the last 30 days, 684,884 deaths from Covid-19 and 42,770,371 cases. This equates to 1.6% chance of dying from this disease. [(684,884 ÷ 42,770,371) × 100] This means that 98.4% survived.

If people that are close to you don't want to do something because of vax status, that's their choice.

COVID-19 Vaccination

COVID-19 vaccines protect against COVID-19. Get safety info and more.

www.cdc.gov

For those who like numbers and pictures, check this out:

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

My point is, here's the data that we have right now. It is deadly but survivable. If you feel the need to get the shot, then get it. If you don't feel the need, then don't. Everyone is a carrier. Period.

Oh, and frack your C-19 Passport.

 

[revjen45]

The Beloved and I got the jab based on the advice of our primary care docs, who have our confidence. We both check all the boxes for dying of it, so the cost/benefit balance for us is not the same as it would be for a 21 year old. We haven't changed how we go about our life, as in we act like it doesn't work and continue to abide by the same avoidance measures as always.

 

[pharmseller]

Here is the link to the current information from the CDC.
I think each person should make their own informed decision on how to handle dealing with this disease, the key though is "informed" which a lot are just using conjecture and opinion.

I have family members that are in the medical field and have witnessed first hand the effects of this disease. It is real.

Key facts after reading through the CDC information:

Vaxxed and unvaxxed are both potential carriers.

Vaccine will lessen the symptoms of the disease.

In the last 30 days, 684,884 deaths from Covid-19 and 42,770,371 cases. This equates to 1.6% chance of dying from this disease. [(684,884 ÷ 42,770,371) × 100] This means that 98.4% survived.

If people that are close to you don't want to do something because of vax status, that's their choice.

COVID-19 Vaccination

COVID-19 vaccines protect against COVID-19. Get safety info and more.

www.cdc.gov

For those who like numbers and pictures, check this out:

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

My point is, here's the data that we have right now. It is deadly but survivable. If you feel the need to get the shot, then get it. If you don't feel the need, then don't. Everyone is a carrier. Period.

Oh, and frack your C-19 Passport.

Thanks for the data, it helps me make my point.

I think the mortality rate is much lower, half or even less. The number of cases, the denominator, is, in my opinion, woefully underreported. The total number of cases are just the ones they know about. What about the asymptomatic? What about those whose symptoms were flu-like, so they never got tested? I'll bet the total number of cases is easily twice what was reported. Therefore the mortality rate is closer to 0.8%, or even less.

And don't get me started on over-reporting deaths.



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[ma96782]

I'd say that.......it was bound to happen with some people.

Just like how the neighbor kids were not allowed to visit with my son at my home. Their decision not mine. Because I owned guns.

Aloha, Mark