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If I knew how to post pictures I would. Again. I don't have many guns but I do Have a few. I'll figure it out soon enough. Just for u Dfuller. Also if i don't own a gun why would my last post I made be asking a question about a round i had stuck in MY ar?
 
I don't doubt if that madman had a sword or machete and carried out the attack more people would have died. At least with a gun he could kill himself, whereas with a long edge weapon he would have just kept killing until the police came (7 minutes later). Children are very vulnerable and defenseless targets.


I am not sure that this makes allot of sense, most domestic crimes are "NOT" done with a gun but are done with object like bats and knives or an axe. The pure carnage of a knife or axe is something you do not want to see.
A quick Google found these two instantly, do some research object type crimes are almost 10-1 more common then a gun to person crime and end in death just as often.

In a suburb of Salt Lake City a crazy man ran around chopping doors open with an axe. He tried to attack multiple people and houses and ends up on a roof chopping holes until he got cold....A 26-year-old man carrying a hatchet first broke into a home on Vinecrest Drive and attacked two of the residents, then tried to break into three other homes before ending up on the roof of another house where he was arrested following a one-hour standoff..

A Halloween nightmare turned reality for some residents in Bowling Green Tuesday night.
Police say, a man carrying an ax was beating on doors at the Garden Apartments, on Trent Way.
Neighbors and police were able to detain the man, but not before he injured at leat two people with the ax.


Guess we should out law axes now, as some one may not use the axe for gathering for wood.
Hmm where did I hear something similar??:huh:
 
If I knew how to post pictures I would. Again. I don't have many guns but I do Have a few. I'll figure it out soon enough. Just for u Dfuller. Also if i don't own a gun why would my last post I made be asking a question about a round i had stuck in MY ar?

I did read that thread...I just don't believe it


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Flyingswords;730681[COLOR="#FF0000" said:
]There is no such thing as an accidental discharge[/COLOR] whatsoever when a human being had the main body of the gun within his possession with a live round in the chamber. Thats referred to as a negligent discharge. Cleaning a gun and it goes off and shoots a testicle off? Thats a negligent discharge. Have a hammer gun (whether its a revolver or a hammerd semi auto) and it goes and shoots a round when you accidently drop it on the hardwood floor, even though it has the mag out but a round still in the chamber? Thats a negligent discharge too.

no there not accidents they are negligent collisions they were preventable.
no not my words that is what people call them they are negligent discharges they are preventable. and there are more homicides by knives , fist, bat's, rocks. so why pick on guns instead of the perp. doing the deed
like I've heard people say before why go after McDonnell's? the fork made me fat it put the food in my mouth

ok, but its still called in your own words " an accidental discharge" it is caused by people who are not paying attention or are focused on other things, just like when people are driving and they are changing their CD or eating some french fries and they crash their car into a tree.

its still a car accident. I dont think people wanted to wreck their cars, just like no one means to shoot themself with an accidental discharge.

accidents are preventable i totally agree with you. but they are accidents. im sure there is many more homicides my guns then cars.

I concure
 
There is no such thing as an accidental discharge whatsoever when a human being had the main body of the gun within his possession with a live round in the chamber. Thats referred to as a negligent discharge. Cleaning a gun and it goes off and shoots a testicle off? Thats a negligent discharge. Have a hammer gun (whether its a revolver or a hammerd semi auto) and it goes and shoots a round when you accidently drop it on the hardwood floor, even though it has the mag out but a round still in the chamber? Thats a negligent discharge too.
I've had a weapon slam fire when I let the bolt fly. Is chambering a round negligent?
 
I did read that thread...I just don't believe it


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i have zreo reason to lie, none whats so ever.
and just for you because for some reason u feel the need to personally try to discredit me. here is a link to my facebook page which is 100% public.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/profile.php?id=100000116157538

have fun. and oh, here my number is 206-795-8847, call and chat it up whenever you want. dont know why u would feel that i would waist my time to make up a post.
 
Its scary... Again, glad it was the pavement that took the shot. I bet that woke you up, just in case you hadn't already had your morning cup of Joe!

Was it an AR?

I have heard of a military casualty due to slam-fire. Apparently the little dents that the loose firing pin leaves on the primer can "add up". A soldier was struck and killed when another soldier was repeatedly chambering the same round. Eventually it went off.
 
Saiga 12. I placed a shell in the chamber manually and let the bolt fly. Never did figure out why it happened and I've tried duplicating it (aiming the weapon down range, of course) to no avail. When it happened I just kinda stood still for a few seconds while chunks of pavement rained down on me. Something like that sure gets your attention PDQ.
 
Squidly, why do u ask?

4Freedom, the whole lets ban cars bit is just lame. everyone knows its lame.
99% of deaths by cars are accidents (im guessing 99% but we all know its very high percent)
the same is not to be said about gun deaths. And just because someone (in this case me) may not fully agree with how u want the world ran dont make me a troll, Thats like saying Obama has been the president for the past 4 years who ever is going to try to run against him is a troll because they may have some different thoughts on some issues.

u call it trolling, i call it free speach.....

You are incorrect. Deaths by automobiles are called accidents because people are not willing to take responsibility for their actions. Most are due to pure negligence in the operation of the vehicle; following to close, excessive speed for conditions, poor situational awareness, driving while under the influence of something, driving distracted, ignorance or willful disregard for the laws/rules of the road and the list goes on. The only one who has the 'accident' is the innocent(s) who, while doing everything right, get smacked by the entitled moron who feels that the rules don't apply to them.


elsie
 
No need to compare America to 3rd world country's... I thought we were beyond that

America will become the worst of 3rd world countries if people like you get your way. Genocide, BTW, isn't limited to 3rd world countries.. The Germans exterminated all their disarmed Jewish citizens during WWII and Germany was one of the most prosperous nations in the world.
 
My family is from Belarus too, (Mogilev) and shared with with us similar stories about being without arms. Then later the Commies did the same thing to their own people because they knew the threat of an armed society. Those that joined the Revolution and after their success were stripped of their firearms as well.
These politicians need to leave our 2A alone and address the issues of mentally disturbed people Directly.
I'm all for keeping guns away from the mentally disturbed.
The question is, how?

It would be impossible to completely prevent the mentally disturbed from getting a hold of firearms,they will steal them,buy them or make them,if they want a gun and cannot find one from an illegal arms dealer,or stealing one,then they can make one.
All you need to make a sten submachine,zip gun,or shotgun can be found at a hardware store.
 
Japan is not comparable to anywhere else. It is a totally unique culture. And no, you couldn't pay me to live there.

Anywhere where virtually ALL the porn centers around the simulated rape of schoolgirls has serious issues.
 
A Land Without Guns: How Japan Has Virtually Eliminated Shooting Deaths - Max Fisher - The Atlantic

i read the artical. not going to post my thoughts as they are most likely the same as most of yours, but is there anyone here that thinks the united states should adress our 200+ plus year old laws?

How do you explain murder rates in countries with very restrictive gun laws, like Russia for example? Statistics show they have a homicide rate over twice that of the U.S.
 

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