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America Has Gestapo as bad As the Nazi Beginnings In Germany of the 30's and 40's

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by U201491, Jan 1, 2015.

  1. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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  2. JRuby

    JRuby St. Helens Oregon Well-Known Member

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    IMHO that the police in the US are worst than the gestapo in the 30's is a load of crap. I think that the disinformation that you are putting out is equal to or worse than the liberal side is doing.
     
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  3. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Reminds me of a guy across the street with the handle 5.56NATO
    Every morning it's cut&paste extreme news as if the rest of us don't know how to do interwebz :D
     
  4. slimer13

    slimer13 Deer Park Well-Known Member

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    Ignore works good. You don't even see the threads unless someone else posts in it and only from the main forum page.
     
  5. frauhunter

    frauhunter Central Oregon Member

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    The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

    - FBI definition of Terrorism
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    While I agree with the sentiment of the OP, equating the MDTA police to the Gestapo is completely unfair and more then just a little insulting to the Gestapo.

    Whatever else one might think of them, the Gestapo was actively engaged in bringing stability to the German nation and upholding the German culture and way of life.

    The MDTA police are simply harassing people who are operating within the law and doing nothing more sinister then going about their daily lives. This kind of targeting is also known as profiling. This kind of activity is called tyranny. The effect is the intent - to undermine our way of life. You know, that fundamental change in America we keep hearing about.

    Send frags to -

    >>>---Frauhunter--->


    Ex Gladio Libertas
     
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  6. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    Taku is correctly pointing out a dangerous parallel that we need to keep an eye on. Germany did not descend into evil overnight, it was grain of sand by grain of sand until a tipping point was achieved. There has been for a long time internal pressure to drag the US along the same path to tyranny. We live in interesting times and must be vigilant if we are to preserve the historically rare state of liberty we currently enjoy.
     
  7. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    In intolerant anti firearm states they are.
    They treat firearm owners as criminals.
     
  8. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Tends to be the reason why I have NEVER ventured into the land of the Yankees. I'm a Rebel with a cause and most of dem Yankees are in Florida, hense me being a Gypsy and all ending up here in the PNW!!!!
    We were getting pulled over for any and everything in Orlando. Police state was evident back in the 80's!!!
     
  9. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    You pegged it.
    The Police there are not police they are little dictators.

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  10. Gunguy45

    Gunguy45 Well-Known Member

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    Gee, cops searching a vehicle without proper cause? Can you say THE LAST 40 YEARS?

    Give it a rest Taku. we're onto you. Yes, we know you're a nut.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Someone actually gets it without tripping on their tongue.
    Yep 3MTA3 you hit the object of the post dead center.
    It is incremental and spreads like a plague in the liberal
    states and will infect the rest in time if not
    brought into the daylight. Dictators always begin small.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    It must be hell living with that headache all the time LOL
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    The tactics are similar to the Maryland Police.


    " Selective terror' by the Gestapo, as mentioned by Johnson, is also supported by historian Richard Evans who states that, "Violence and intimidation rarely touched the lives of most ordinary Germans. Denunciation was the exception, not the rule, as far as the behaviour of the vast majority of Germans was concerned."[96] The involvement of ordinary Germans in denunciations also needs to be put into perspective so as not to exonerate the Gestapo. As Evans makes clear, "...it was not the ordinary German people who engaged in surveillance, it was the Gestapo; nothing happened until the Gestapo received a denunciation, and it was the Gestapo's active pursuit of deviance and dissent that was the only thing that gave denunciations meaning."[97] The Gestapo's effectiveness remained in the ability to "project" omnipotence...they co-opted the assistance of the German population by using denunciations to their advantage; proving in the end a powerful, ruthless and effective organ of terror under the Nazi regime that was seemingly everywhere.[98] Lastly, the Gestapo's effectiveness, while aided by denunciations and the watchful eye of ordinary Germans, was more the result of the coordination and cooperation amid the various police organs within Germany, the assistance of the SS, and the support provided by the various Nazi Party organisations; all of them together forming an organised persecution network. "

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo

    Not much different than what they are treating gun owners like. Only in scale.
     
  14. 8ball

    8ball WA Quit talkin' and start chalking!

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    Taku, I thought you left us for some other forum? What happened, did they get sick of your copy and paste too?
     
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    balaperdida eastern idaho Well-Known Member

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    Am I the only person on this forum old enough to remember pre-GCA68? Yes, the descent has been gradual, and probably unnoticed by the younger crowd.

    Note that the FBI definition of terrorism allows for the "lawful" use of force or violence to coerce.
     
  16. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    Yup, it's death by a thousand cuts. Each time we get acclimatized to blood loss from the last "common sense" cut, they cut us again. It won't stop until we stop it.
     
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    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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  18. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    Propaganda Ministry on par with the Nazi's?
    Yes, America has exceeded them in that respect. A very slick operation helped by advanced technology the Nazi's never had.

    Gestapo?
    Not quite yet, maybe after they completely neuter the 2nd Amendment nationwide. Feel sorry for the kid's and grandkids of this Generation if the gun grabbers succeed.
     
  19. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    I just hope and pray that generationX & it's predecessor has the intestinal fortitude to stand up to TPTB after we are dead & gone.
     
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  20. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    If you'll recall, the nazis gave credit to, and learned a LOT about effective propaganda from the U.S. Government under Woodrow Wilson and FDR, and utilized it.

    Ain't NOBODY ever had (or has) ANYTHING over Uncle Sam in the use of propaganda. o_O