America Has Gestapo as bad As the Nazi Beginnings In Germany of the 30's and 40's

[U201491]

Gun owners fear Maryland police target them for traffic stops - Washington Times

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/30/gun-owners-fear-maryland-cops-target-them-for-traf/

It is here and growing every month, every week, every day.
Instead of the star of David, they look for the CHL branded to your Drivers License.

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[JRuby]

IMHO that the police in the US are worst than the gestapo in the 30's is a load of crap. I think that the disinformation that you are putting out is equal to or worse than the liberal side is doing.

 

[308]

Reminds me of a guy across the street with the handle 5.56NATO
Every morning it's cut&paste extreme news as if the rest of us don't know how to do interwebz

 

[slimmer13]

Ignore works good. You don't even see the threads unless someone else posts in it and only from the main forum page.

 

[frauhunter]

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The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.
- FBI definition of Terrorism
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While I agree with the sentiment of the OP, equating the MDTA police to the Gestapo is completely unfair and more then just a little insulting to the Gestapo.

Whatever else one might think of them, the Gestapo was actively engaged in bringing stability to the German nation and upholding the German culture and way of life.

The MDTA police are simply harassing people who are operating within the law and doing nothing more sinister then going about their daily lives. This kind of targeting is also known as profiling. This kind of activity is called tyranny. The effect is the intent - to undermine our way of life. You know, that fundamental change in America we keep hearing about.

Send frags to -

>>>---Frauhunter--->


Ex Gladio Libertas

 

[3MTA3]

Taku is correctly pointing out a dangerous parallel that we need to keep an eye on. Germany did not descend into evil overnight, it was grain of sand by grain of sand until a tipping point was achieved. There has been for a long time internal pressure to drag the US along the same path to tyranny. We live in interesting times and must be vigilant if we are to preserve the historically rare state of liberty we currently enjoy.

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

In intolerant anti firearm states they are.
They treat firearm owners as criminals.

 

[Caveman Jim]

Tends to be the reason why I have NEVER ventured into the land of the Yankees. I'm a Rebel with a cause and most of dem Yankees are in Florida, hense me being a Gypsy and all ending up here in the PNW!!!!
We were getting pulled over for any and everything in Orlando. Police state was evident back in the 80's!!!

 

[U201491]

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The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.
- FBI definition of Terrorism
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The MDTA police are simply harassing people who are operating within the law and doing nothing more sinister then going about their daily lives. This kind of targeting is also known as profiling. This kind of activity is called tyranny. The effect is the intent - to undermine our way of life. You know, that fundamental change in America we keep hearing about.

Send frags to -

>>>---Frauhunter--->


Ex Gladio Libertas

You pegged it.
The Police there are not police they are little dictators.

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[Gunguy45]

Gee, cops searching a vehicle without proper cause? Can you say THE LAST 40 YEARS?

Give it a rest Taku. we're onto you. Yes, we know you're a nut.

 

[U201491]

Taku is correctly pointing out a dangerous parallel that we need to keep an eye on. Germany did not descend into evil overnight, it was grain of sand by grain of sand until a tipping point was achieved. There has been for a long time internal pressure to drag the US along the same path to tyranny. We live in interesting times and must be vigilant if we are to preserve the historically rare state of liberty we currently enjoy.

Someone actually gets it without tripping on their tongue.
Yep 3MTA3 you hit the object of the post dead center.
It is incremental and spreads like a plague in the liberal
states and will infect the rest in time if not
brought into the daylight. Dictators always begin small.

 

[U201491]

Gee, cops searching a vehicle without proper cause? Can you say THE LAST 40 YEARS?

Give it a rest Taku. we're onto you. Yes, we know you're a nut.

It must be hell living with that headache all the time LOL

 

[U201491]

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The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.
- FBI definition of Terrorism
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

While I agree with the sentiment of the OP, equating the MDTA police to the Gestapo is completely unfair and more then just a little insulting to the Gestapo.

Whatever else one might think of them, the Gestapo was actively engaged in bringing stability to the German nation and upholding the German culture and way of life.

The MDTA police are simply harassing people who are operating within the law and doing nothing more sinister then going about their daily lives. This kind of targeting is also known as profiling. This kind of activity is called tyranny. The effect is the intent - to undermine our way of life. You know, that fundamental change in America we keep hearing about.

Send frags to -

>>>---Frauhunter--->


Ex Gladio Libertas

The tactics are similar to the Maryland Police.


" Selective terror' by the Gestapo, as mentioned by Johnson, is also supported by historian Richard Evans who states that, "Violence and intimidation rarely touched the lives of most ordinary Germans. Denunciation was the exception, not the rule, as far as the behaviour of the vast majority of Germans was concerned."[96] The involvement of ordinary Germans in denunciations also needs to be put into perspective so as not to exonerate the Gestapo. As Evans makes clear, "...it was not the ordinary German people who engaged in surveillance, it was the Gestapo; nothing happened until the Gestapo received a denunciation, and it was the Gestapo's active pursuit of deviance and dissent that was the only thing that gave denunciations meaning."[97] The Gestapo's effectiveness remained in the ability to "project" omnipotence...they co-opted the assistance of the German population by using denunciations to their advantage; proving in the end a powerful, ruthless and effective organ of terror under the Nazi regime that was seemingly everywhere.[98] Lastly, the Gestapo's effectiveness, while aided by denunciations and the watchful eye of ordinary Germans, was more the result of the coordination and cooperation amid the various police organs within Germany, the assistance of the SS, and the support provided by the various Nazi Party organisations; all of them together forming an organised persecution network. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo

Not much different than what they are treating gun owners like. Only in scale.

 

[8ball]

Taku, I thought you left us for some other forum? What happened, did they get sick of your copy and paste too?

 

[balaperdida]

Am I the only person on this forum old enough to remember pre-GCA68? Yes, the descent has been gradual, and probably unnoticed by the younger crowd.

Note that the FBI definition of terrorism allows for the "lawful" use of force or violence to coerce.

 

[3MTA3]

Am I the only person on this forum old enough to remember pre-GCA68? Yes, the descent has been gradual, and probably unnoticed by the younger crowd.

Note that the FBI definition of terrorism allows for the "lawful" use of force or violence to coerce.

Yup, it's death by a thousand cuts. Each time we get acclimatized to blood loss from the last "common sense" cut, they cut us again. It won't stop until we stop it.

 

[Riot]

Name and date of birth...that's all you have to tell an officer...name and date of birth.

You don't have to answer his questions.
If you're not detained you can leave.
You can refuse consent to a search- even if you have already consented and the officer is already searching.

https://www.aclu.org/drug-law-refor...acial-justice/know-your-rights-what-do-if-you

 

[OLDNEWBIE]

Propaganda Ministry on par with the Nazi's?
Yes, America has exceeded them in that respect. A very slick operation helped by advanced technology the Nazi's never had.

Gestapo?
Not quite yet, maybe after they completely neuter the 2nd Amendment nationwide. Feel sorry for the kid's and grandkids of this Generation if the gun grabbers succeed.

 

[Caveman Jim]

I just hope and pray that generationX & it's predecessor has the intestinal fortitude to stand up to TPTB after we are dead & gone.

 

[Stomper]

Propaganda Ministry on par with the Nazi's?
Yes, America has exceeded them in that respect. A very slick operation helped by advanced technology the Nazi's never had.

Gestapo?
Not quite yet, maybe after they completely neuter the 2nd Amendment nationwide. Feel sorry for the kid's and grandkids of this Generation if the gun grabbers succeed.

If you'll recall, the nazis gave credit to, and learned a LOT about effective propaganda from the U.S. Government under Woodrow Wilson and FDR, and utilized it.

Ain't NOBODY ever had (or has) ANYTHING over Uncle Sam in the use of propaganda.