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E4mafia

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USPS sends me an E-mail whenever something is delivered to my mailbox (usually with a photo of the piece of mail or package) but, if it's just a flyer or junk then sometimes no picture.
This means I don't need to check everyday..... only when there's something worth the trip.

The service is free.
I to have this and usually how I filter between junk and making a trip. I truly hope this stays free.

My only worry is when FedEx or DHL has to handle my package.
 

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The only thing I ask with delivery services is to please please please please verify address to whats on the package. I have had at least a couple $100+ items be delivered to the wrong address. Calling the center they say they cannot tell you where it is only that its at the wrong address (which if they KNOW this why does it have to wait for me to call to begin with...) anyways. Please guys who do this, I get you have a crappy soul sucking job but can we at least verify its dropped at the right place?

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Kind of makes me want to sign up for a PO Box instead tbh, can't screw that up can they?
Probably be much less chance although I suppose some must hand the stuff to the wrong person now and then. LONG ago when I worked days and was single I did rent one of those private boxes for a while since even then I was buying stuff mail order. Not sure what they run now days. You could of course get one from the USPS. I would hate to have to do that from what I have seen. Last few times I was at one to mail something they had a door for people to pick up packages. People would ring the bell and often still be standing there when I got done waiting in line and was leaving. Unless it's improved it would be a last choice for me. I long ago learned to only use a Credit Card for buying. If something is lost you get your money back. The outside camera's also made this a world of difference better. Since after that when I would call to say they did not leave it at my home I would say, I watched the tape and you were never here.
 

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Part of the reason I got my ring camera. I've had a few times they've claimed it was delivered but there was no activity at my porch, it was also within view of the mail box nada there to.

Other times its been marked delivered I go out and find nothing and about 30mins later it shows up.
 
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How well do you think UPS, FedEx, etc vet their drivers? Background checks for non-government jobs are generally a joke, and won't show anyone who hasn't been caught. As an attorney, you should know that. Nothing is going to stop a UPS or FedEx guy from noticing what you're getting either. People get so wrapped up with uniforms and signs - it gives credence to the joke that a clipboard and a high viz vest can get you anywhere :confused:
What does my being an "attorney" makes me know the hiring policies of FedEx, Amazon, or UPS? Do you even know what lawyers do? There is no class in law school covering hiring practices of common carriers FYI. And unless a lawyer works in this very niche area of law, there's little reason to know this. So, thanks for the "dressing down" but you're off the mark here sir, and it's unwarranted and unappreciated.

I would presume, perhaps naively, companies like FedEx and UPS do drug screening, and hiring background checks, and bar employment from those with drugs, arrests, convictions, DUIs, and other problematic backgrounds. I'd further suspect that those subcontracted people in their own POVs are probably far more lax in employment standards.

Yeah, I've seen Beverly Hills Cop also. Yes, if some thief goes thru the effort of buying a box truck, painting it with FEDEX logos, and buying and wearing FEDEX uniform, then more power too him. HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

Please check facts and reality before dressing down other members.
 
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What does my being an "attorney" makes me know the hiring policies of FedEx, Amazon, or UPS? Do you even know what lawyers do? There is no class in law school covering hiring practices of common carriers FYI. And unless a lawyer works in this very niche area of law, there's little reason to know this. So, thanks for the "dressing down" but you're off the mark here sir, and it's unwarranted and unappreciated.

I would presume, perhaps naively, companies like FedEx and UPS do drug screening, and hiring background checks, and bar employment from those with drugs, arrests, convictions, DUIs, and other problematic backgrounds. I'd further suspect that those subcontracted people in their own POVs are probably far more lax in employment standards.

Yeah, I've seen Beverly Hills Cop also. Yes, if some thief goes thru the effort of buying a box truck, painting it with FEDEX logos, and buying and wearing FEDEX uniform, then more power too him. HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

Please check facts and reality before dressing down other members.
I was pointing out that as an attorney you should realize that background checks don't show behavior that hasn't been caught up by the system, but of course like a typical attorney you take a tact beyond the obvious. Must be contract law specialist. :rolleyes:

A person's driving record is more likely to be accurate than a typical employment background check, since the driving records check comes from the DMV and not from a compilation of publicly available records. They don't get the same in depth attention than an NCIC check or LEDS check garners, and most don't look at a person's entire history - as an employer I discovered that the background check agencies typically only look at the last ten years.

I find it hilarious that you think that somehow a company that hires contractors along with their own delivery employees is less likely to check on the people delivering their merchandise than a different contract vendor would be. Amazon is a giant company, they can absorb the costs, right? Ever think that those company drivers or contractors would be more likely to get fired (Amazon is not known for being a good place to work for) if they steal, or if they damage goods, or if they don't perform. Common carriers are limited in number, and generally just don't give a damn. Ever see how they handle packages in their warehouse? "Fragile" stamped on the box means nothing. Watch them load their trucks with that same care. But they're wearing a brown or purple shirt and drive a truck with a corporate logo - except during the holidays when it could be a big white truck, van, or a Ryder truck...

The people bubbleguming about the gig economy drivers, contract workers, and the non-normal business hours don't have to use them - buy local, support your mom & pop shop, go without - send the packages to your workplace instead of your home - lots of solutions to a non-existent problem. I'm far more concerned about the dude on a 10 speed rooting through the garbage bins at 9PM than the unmarked white van dropping boxes on door steps.
 

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We order from Amazon quite often. If I know that nobody is going to home, I have package delivered to an Amazon locker instead and pick it up on my way home from work. Not sure if Amazon has lockers in every area.
 

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We order from Amazon quite often. If I know that nobody is going to home, I have package delivered to an Amazon locker instead and pick it up on my way home from work. Not sure if Amazon has lockers in every area.
I have not yet tried them for delivery but Wife has used one a few times for returns. She said they work great for that. Said they let her pick the one she wants to use, so will pick one on her way to work. If there is space it gives her a code she punches in and it takes the package. Guess the delivery must work the same way. With thefts becoming such a problem suspect there will be more of these popping up all the time.
 

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Yeah, having some of that "mail order" stuff coming you don't want the damn gossipy postman wondering what is in those plain brown funny shaped packages. :)
Couple times I got some real odd looks. Used to buy bulk bullets from National. The clerk would lug the box to the counter going what's in this? I would say lead. I could feel them watching me on the way out the door LOL
 
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USPS sends me an E-mail whenever something is delivered to my mailbox
Yes, this. My friend in NM told me about this, it's called Informed Delivery. I don't know why I myself haven't signed up for it.

The delivery progress notifications for Amazon shipments that some people have mentioned here, they are hit and miss for me. More often than not, I don't get them.

I would presume, perhaps naively, companies like FedEx and UPS do drug screening, and hiring background checks, and bar employment from those with drugs, arrests, convictions, DUIs, and other problematic backgrounds. I'd further suspect that those subcontracted people in their own POVs are probably far more lax in employment standards.
I would think that any large business these days has to take background checks seriously because of issues of liability. Businesses that use the gig economy model, examples being Uber and Amazon Flex, I'd guess have the highest error factor in this regard simply because of scale. Of these two examples, I'd guess that Uber is most at risk as I doubt they have anywhere near the investigative resources that, say, the USPS has for background checks.

One thing I've been told lately about pre-employment checks in general. The USPS is having trouble getting enough applicants who can pass a drug test so they can get to the next phase of screening. It's more of a problem these days because (semi) legal cannabis use has spread so far and wide.

you should realize that background checks don't show behavior that hasn't been caught up by the system
This might be said of anyone. It's not possible to know the unknown. Background checks are for noting what has happened, not what might happen.

Different idea. One thing to think about with delivery people entering your property at odd hours in the dark. Liability. They are more apt to get injured than during regular daytime hours. Even in the PNW. You are likely to be a property owner with insurance. The driver may be a gig economy worker with no benefits and no insurance. See where the money is going on this? Just something to think about. I'm only semi-kidding when I suggest maybe we should have a sign up out front that says, "Enter property at your own risk." That way at least a driver who trips over a garden hose and breaks a hip can't say, "But there was no warning sign saying a hose might be there." Or maybe send a certified letter to Amazon corporate denying liability for any mishaps that occur. Lawyers out there, does this have any traction? Yeah, I know. Anybody can sue anybody for anything.
 

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Yes, this. My friend in NM told me about this, it's called Informed Delivery. I don't know why I myself haven't signed up for it.
I signed up for that quite a while back. The USPS kept bugging me to try it. When I finally did it was nice. Get an email daily showing a scan of the stuff that's coming. If something does not show I know they lost it.
 
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I was pointing out that as an attorney you should realize that background checks don't show behavior that hasn't been caught up by the system, but of course like a typical attorney you take a tact beyond the obvious. Must be contract law specialist. :rolleyes:

A person's driving record is more likely to be accurate than a typical employment background check, since the driving records check comes from the DMV and not from a compilation of publicly available records. They don't get the same in depth attention than an NCIC check or LEDS check garners, and most don't look at a person's entire history - as an employer I discovered that the background check agencies typically only look at the last ten years.

I find it hilarious that you think that somehow a company that hires contractors along with their own delivery employees is less likely to check on the people delivering their merchandise than a different contract vendor would be. Amazon is a giant company, they can absorb the costs, right? Ever think that those company drivers or contractors would be more likely to get fired (Amazon is not known for being a good place to work for) if they steal, or if they damage goods, or if they don't perform. Common carriers are limited in number, and generally just don't give a damn. Ever see how they handle packages in their warehouse? "Fragile" stamped on the box means nothing. Watch them load their trucks with that same care. But they're wearing a brown or purple shirt and drive a truck with a corporate logo - except during the holidays when it could be a big white truck, van, or a Ryder truck...

The people bubbleguming about the gig economy drivers, contract workers, and the non-normal business hours don't have to use them - buy local, support your mom & pop shop, go without - send the packages to your workplace instead of your home - lots of solutions to a non-existent problem. I'm far more concerned about the dude on a 10 speed rooting through the garbage bins at 9PM than the unmarked white van dropping boxes on door steps.
Whatever, I could tear this nonsense apart, but I'm not going to be bothered beyond saying you are simply incorrect in several ways. I'm enjoying a bourbon. Have a fine evening.
 
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I guess it varies by area. I used to get Amazon deliveries with the unmarked independent contractors. Now everyone seems to be in an Amazon Prime van and wearing a uniform. And the only time I get a delivery after 6 p.m. is when something I ordered is coming as next day or same day shipment. Can you pin your problem to this? Is it only the shipments that come one day or is it also the 2 day prime shipments that sometimes come late?

Have you called Amazon and talked to them about it?
 
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USPS sends me an E-mail whenever something is delivered to my mailbox (usually with a photo of the piece of mail or package) but, if it's just a flyer or junk then sometimes no picture.
This means I don't need to check everyday..... only when there's something worth the trip.

The service is free.
Yup - i do this too now
 
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Probably be much less chance although I suppose some must hand the stuff to the wrong person now and then. LONG ago when I worked days and was single I did rent one of those private boxes for a while since even then I was buying stuff mail order. Not sure what they run now days. You could of course get one from the USPS.
It has been a long time since I had a USPS PO box, but I seem to recall that they would not accept packages that could not fit into your box? Or maybe they would not accept UPS? I forget.

Not all private outfits will accept packages either - some of them just don't have the space.

I've not had problems with deliveries being stolen here - even when they get left out at my mail box (it has an a-frame roof over it). I have had some deliveries say they were delivered but they weren't, then they show up the next day - IIRC, those were almost always USPS doing the last mile.
 

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OP are you rural? UPS and Fedex charge more for these areas, I’d check your location on their systems. The post shouldn’t be charging anymore really especially if you receive mail daily. If your too rural and don’t receive mail daily, I am surprised by the lack of understanding on why the different delivery people are being used. Your location is likely expensive to ship to. You may not like it, but that is likely the truth. However, seems like Amazon has found a way to get you all of your orders without raising your free shipping rates, be it that you are using prime. I see this as a good thing.
 
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OP are you rural? UPS and Fedex charge more for these areas, I’d check your location on their systems. The post shouldn’t be charging anymore really especially if you receive mail daily. If your too rural and don’t receive mail daily, I am surprised by the lack of understanding on why the different delivery people are being used. Your location is likely expensive to ship to. You may not like it, but that is likely the truth. However, seems like Amazon has found a way to get you all of your orders without raising your free shipping rates, be it that you are using prime. I see this as a good thing.
Well, not rural in the sense of Harrison County, Iowa. We live in a rural-like pocket of a surburban area. Out of the way enough that we don't have curbs, sidewalks, street sweeping and maybe see a sheriff's deputy drive by once a year. I pay for my own street light out along the road. We used to joke, "Not even the Jehovah's Witnesses will come out here." But I don't think our location has any effect on "normal" shipping rates.

It just "is what it is," somebody else said above, "Get used to the future." One in which we can foresee a continual degredation of services and a race to the bottom in service - and wages paid out for rendering it.

And this about the US Postal Service:

...this mirrors how they have lost market share in First Class mail because of technology etc. The Post Office is dying a slow and painful death because of this and many other reasons. They are struggling for relevance
Very true. And I'm guessing that there is a private equity firm slobbering over the prospects of taking it over and converting all 640,000 positions to $7.50 an hour. Until they ax about half of those.

There are perhaps two lonely but very sturdy threads that are anchoring the USPS. One, rural postal patrons. They all have congressmen. Two, the large body of direct advertising mailers and parcel consolidators who originated and benefit from special low-ball rates. Neither of these have anything to do with efficiency or saving of taxpayer money. They represent special interests.
 

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