Alec Baldwin: on-set 'Rust' shooting - NEW UPDATE

[oa98pistol512]

I haven't kept up at all on the whole thing, but does it even matter? If an actor was told and believed it was a cold gun and he pulled the trigger or not, it wouldn't constitute willfull discharge of a firearm or intent to murder... would it?

Uhh he was one of the trained and paid techs for guns on his own set....Besides he wouldn't have slipped a live round in the gun would he? Lots of fishy stuff going on set .

 

[homeuser6]

let's be clear- starline makes empty brass

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

let's be clear- starline makes empty brass

But would you use it for dummy rounds for a cowboy period movie?

 

[Flounder]

I think there might be a resurgence of interest



Available here ($20) - https://www.roosterconcepts.com/product/alec-baldwin-possibly-blanks/

 

[homeuser6]

But would you use it for dummy rounds for a cowboy period movie?

it's true i don't get out much, but
i've never seen a readable headstamp in a cowboy movie

 

[Flopsweat]

...cowboy period movie...

Is that some weird new transgender thing?

 

[Xaevian]

Is that some weird new transgender thing?

 

[Danall]

There is never a time when it is allowed to point a real firearm at another person on any film set(even using blanks). Ever since Brandon Lee was killed, rules have been tightened in the industry.

The only "rules" i have found are the following and they really are not "tightened" in any way, are pretty loose and appear as suggestions, or rather "advice"...ie "refrain from.." I'm guessing the last "suggestion" definitely was not followed.

But even then, there isn't one definitive set of procedures and protocols.
Perhaps the closest to a list of suggested rules is that published by the Industry-Wide Labor-Management Safety Committee.
Its advice includes:

• Blanks can kill. Treat all firearms as though they are loaded
• Refrain from pointing a firearm at yourself or anyone else
• Never place your finger on the trigger unless you're ready to shoot
• Anyone involved in using a firearm must be thoroughly briefed at an on-set safety meeting
• Only a qualified person should load a firearm
• Protective shields, eye and hearing protection should be used by anyone in close proximity or the line of fire
• Any actor who is required to stand near the line of fire should be allowed to witness the loading of the firearms

 

[CountryGent]

A legal analysis, if anyone is interested.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

A legal analysis, if anyone is interested.

But he never touched the trigger

What about charges for the other guy that got shot but didn't die? I guess he doesn't count.

 

[lwarner]

Sorry, lol

 

[phidelt208]

There's the pickle, it's unclear who called it cold.

There’s no gray area there.
That’s just shifting responsibility to somebody else.
Actor or any profession you pointed a gun at somebody and you pulled the trigger, pretending or not, unknowingly or not, you are responsible for your actions.

 

[doninoregon]

"Alec Baldwin was on the phone during firearms training..."

A few new details in this story: www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64475627

 

[Dust2Dollars]

"Alec Baldwin was on the phone during firearms training..."

Probably talking with his lawyer of the ramifications of disposing of a hard to deal with person on the set?

 

[johnly]

Poor Alec.. His "friends" are being less than supportive.
An interesting read. It will be interesting to see if the claims are supported during the trial.

https://deadline.com/2023/02/alec-b...al-witness-list-analysis-1235239588/#comments

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

Alec Baldwin faces new lawsuit from Halyna Hutchins' family over fatal "Rust" shooting

Attorney Gloria Allred announced the filing of a new lawsuit against Alec Baldwin and "Rust" on behalf of Halyna Hutchins' sister and parents.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[The Heretic]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/1109ppp

 

[Ura-Ki]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/1109ppp

He absolutely SHOULD spend time behind bars, his celebrity status should have ZERO bearing on his sentencing at all! In fact, I say tack extra time on for being an extra entitled elite arse hole who thinks he is so much better then the rest of us and that the laws don't apply to him!

 

[CountryGent]

Looks like the prosecution dropped enhancement charges: 'Rust' Prosecutors Downgrade Alec Baldwin's Manslaughter Charges

 

[Paolung]

Looks like the prosecution dropped enhancement charges: 'Rust' Prosecutors Downgrade Alec Baldwin's Manslaughter Charges

Yeah, they wouldn't have stuck. Can't retroactively apply legislation enacted after the event in question.