I agree. What I was saying was in response to a previous post sayinging does he deserve the same leniency as the pilot that killed Vic Morrow and the two kids. I said a Helicopter was designed to fly but a gum made to kill!I agree but in this case I cannot see anything that would prevent charging AB. If not this sets a bad precedent - I mean the next 'negligent' discharge from one who is holding a gun will just request the 'Alec Baldwin' defense.
Horribly written, they using kindergarteners now?AND not that it really matters but the 24 YO 'armorer' was previoulsy involved in another act of stupidity just last year:
"Rusted" Armorer Insurance Company Pays $ 50,000 Settlement for A Friend's Fatal Accident - Florida News TimesHannah Gutierrez-Lead The woman at the center of the “rust” death investigation has also recently been linked to the death of her best friend, and her insurance company has paid a fortune to his family. According to a legal document obtained by Reed’s friend TMZ Tyler DierDied in an accident in...floridanewstimes.com
She was a model and then wanted to be an actress or director. Says she was mostly self taught. My guess is daddy realized she wasn't up to the task and didn't encourage it.EDIT! She is Thell Reed's daughter? Say it ain't so...
What an utter train wreck from the get-go.A third search warrant affidavit filed Wednesday reveals new details in the investigation into the deadly shooting on the “Rust” film set.nypost.com
I wrote this the other day on another forum.
LAST Saturday morning BEFORE even more news came out over there, here or in the BIASED L/R - R/L news.
Here you go:
I will come back to this later on. I have followed this story from MANY sources online when the story broke and before I read this and one other forum.
I BLAME the shooter.
Yes, there is a LOT more to the story from all sides and sources.
May the dead lady's family, friends and co workers have some peace.
May the dead lady rest in peace. I am sad that she died even though I had NO clue who she was.
May the wounded man heal up.
My husband explained 'blanks' to me AND I saw some professional people explain this too. Armorers for films and other gun men. I saw this on OTA boob tube news in the wee hours on one station too.
A human being can fire/shoot BLANKS from a firearm and the blanks CAN KILL a person not just wound them.
A human being can fire/shoot any type of ammunition from a firearm of any type and KILL a person not just wound them.
(My MT husband told me that when he had hunter safety classes as a kid in school (Late 50's or early 60's?) - the INSTRUCTOR showed them what a so called BLANK could do when it came to damage too.
He was shooting as a KID too. Under supervision. Very, very young! He got his first deer when he was 12 years old and his OLDER brother and another neighbor man were with him.)
Some of you have caught on to more of the story here in this thread since a lot more has come out as the hours went on. I am glad that some of you mentioned it here too.
I may add some other LINKS later on.
Funny thing, really NOT so funny, whenever I have handed OVER A FIREARM to another person whether it was my late husband, my MT husband, any friend shooting in a few states on all types of terrain and SEVERAL INDOOR AND OUTDOOR - CLUB official shooting ranges, to MY old dead and alive friends including ones in police work and to my or my husband's old military buddies, etc. - I ALWAYS CHECKED - CHECK THAT MY FIREARM was UNLOADED - demonstrated to them that my firearm was EMPTY-UNLOADED and when THEY PICKED IT UP FROM ME EVEN IF THEY JUST SAW ME DO THIS - THEY CHECKED IT TOO.
I HAD an old friend in Colorado who died within a week of my late husband. He told me that he never saw anyone so careful about gun safety and transferring firearms to them and vice versa even IF they handed ME one of their firearms to shoot and even if I saw them unload it, etc. - I ALWAYS CHECKED THE FIREARM OUT because that was/is what I was TAUGHT and READ even when I started to buy my own guns and get into shooting in my late 40's.
I was ALWAYS told that ALL GUNS were loaded.
Col. Jeff Cooper's rules, etc.
I have never seen a BLANK in real life as in seeing one in my hand or any other person holding a blank.
I do NOT care for AB and when I say that HE is responsible - it has nothing to do with his vile talk or actions.
Maybe he was going on about Trump's COMMENTS about shooting someone on Fifth Avenue and more! Who knows?
“I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters."
Nothing would shock me if this was an accident or ANOTHER CASE of a bad day when it came to AB and his crazy talk, temper, etc.
AB had 3 ROLES (Actor, producer, director (?).) in that movie being filmed.
Plus there was a whole bunch of other crapola going on THERE and not only with the CREW who walked OFF THE SET and with other complaints.
Prop Gun That Killed Cinematographer on Alec Baldwin Film Contained ‘Live Single Round,’ Union ClaimsThe prop gun that killed “Rust” cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza on during an on-set accident on Thursday contained a “live single round,” acc…
“Local 44 has confirmed that the Props, Set Decoration, Special Effects and Construction Departments were staffed by New Mexico crew members,” Pawluc said. “There were no Local 44 members on the call sheet. On behalf of Local 44’s Officers, Executive Board and Staff, our thoughts and prayers go out to Halyna and her family. We also send good thoughts to Joel and his family for a full recovery.”
TONS OF OTHER LINKS are out there telling what was going on while filming that movie.
Throw in the movie's PLOT - strange indeed.
AB, KARMA is a female dog. TOO bad that you hurt and killed people plus what you have done in the PAST too.
Your hypocrisy shows NO bounds!
Just like all of the OTHER HOLLYWEIRD ANTI GUN PEOPLE who make movies with guns and tons of violence in them. Throw in your private security guards and public - taxpayer paid peace officers who guard your sorry butt when you are out and about. Throw in your LOCKED GATES and walls around your fancy homes!
Even though Baldwin is all those things, He was doing exactly what he was supposed to be doing with that gun!Okay, from what I've read, it seems that someone "handed the 'prop' gun to AB and told him it was safe." Various headlines use a phrase, "the gun he was holding."
Google it and you'll find this: "Alec Baldwin didn't know weapon contained live round."
What a complete idiot!
For millions of dollars or not, it would never occur to me to take a real firearm that somebody handed me (a gun the production crew used for actual target shooting the very same morning), fail to check it myself, point it in the general direction of a camera with humans standing behind it - and pull the trigger.
But what do I know? I'm just a safety-oriented hobbyist.
F_ing ignorant, virtue-posturing, loudmouth "political activist" (rabidly anti-2A), untrained, elitist, moron! Baldwin uses his numbly insulated celebrity platform to spout diatribes against cops and Second Amendment, and sensible, responsible gun owners everywhere. Longs to see you and me unarmed and defenseless.
Sadly, his wealth and the political favor abused by most Hollywood celebrities will allow him to nimbly side-step anything resembling a negative consequence. In fact, it will only make him "more interesting" to those sheep who will continue to buy his hypocritical commercial products.