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Alabama School shooting?!

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by clearconscience, Feb 12, 2010.

  1. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    A girl!!!!

    HUNTSVILLE, Ala. – A woman opened fire during a biology faculty meeting at the University of Alabama's Huntsville campus Friday, killing three faculty members and injuring two other faculty members and a staff member.

    The shooter was in custody, but university spokesman Ray Garner said he could not identify her or the victims. Local television stations reported she is a faculty member.

    No students were involved in the shooting.

    Huntsville Hospital spokesman Burr Ingram said two of the injured were in critical condition and the third was in stable condition.

    Sophomore Erin Johnson told The Huntsville Times a biology faculty meeting was under way when she heard screams coming from the room.

    The shooting happened in the university's Shelby Center, a science building. University police secured the building and students were cleared from it.

    The Huntsville campus has about 7,500 students in northern Alabama, not far from the Tennessee line.

    The university posted a message on its Web site Friday afternoon telling students the campus was closed Friday night and all students were encouraged to go home. Counselors were available to speak with students.

    Garner said the campus was closed while police gathered evidence. He said at a news conference that the shooting was not unlike one the area experienced a week ago, when a 14-year-old student was shot to death in a middle school hallway, allegedly by a fellow student.

    "This town is unaccustomed to shootings and multiple deaths," he said.
     
  2. aslinged

    aslinged Southern Oregon Well-Known Member

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    What a joke, "Garner" the university representative says it's like when a student shot another student? What a piece of work. The only thing that is similar is that there was a gun involved.
     
  3. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    Unaccustomed to shootings??? I lived in Huntsville for several years. There were shootings almost daily. You did not want to be walking after dark in several areas of town. I guess those did not count since the were on the wrong end of Memorial Parkway. :cool:
     
  4. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    It always cracks me up. Don't worry, the counselors they are providing will make everything OK. :(
     
  5. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    Wow, maybe I should change my stance on arming the teachers then?

    [/sarcasim]
     
  6. Thule

    Thule Monroe, WA Member

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    Other reports are that the suspect was a teacher that was denied tenure. She then went postal on the other faculty members present at the tenure meeting.
     
  7. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    One that fired bullets....seriously though we probably will never know. She could have had a .38SPC S&W Revolver for all we know....but the media will report it as a TEC-9 or an AK-47.

    Original reports of the Virgina Tec shooter were that of a "high-powered assault rifle" when he just had a Glock 17 and a Walther P-22.
     
  8. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    On a side note, I was talking to an (unarmed) campus public safety officer tonight, and he told me he has no problem at all with licensed students and teachers carrying on campus - he'd enforce the university policy against it if he had to, I think, but definitely thinks it should be changed.

    It's always nice to talk to someone sensible...
     
  9. dobeman

    dobeman Hillsboro Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    media's going to twist themselves trying to explain that. I mean it's *always* an angry male doing the shooting. Sad sad state of affairs today.
     
  10. aslinged

    aslinged Southern Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Apparently she's a Harvard grad with a PHd--guess that will spoil some more stereotypes for people.
     
  11. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    I believe that she was called a neurologist - a high-end MD. What a way to spoil her own life along with taking some others.
     
  12. aslinged

    aslinged Southern Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Yep MD, PHd...either way, taken along with her sex, it really breaks the stereotype attached to these shootings.
     
  13. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Affluent, educated, female, workplace gunman..........it doesn't fit the mold so I predict this will be down played/drop out of the media quickly!
     
  14. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    My bad - it appears that she was a neurobiologist, PHD teacher. Still, what a waste.

    Education :
    Ph.D. in Genetics awarded by Harvard University, Department of Genetics, Division of Medical Sciences.

    Previous Position :
    Instructor of Medicine at Harvard Medical School.

    Link
     
  15. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    Just goes to show you that even educated people can be nut-jobs.
     
  16. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    Perhaps a sociopath, like most cold-blooded killers... Not enough evidence out there yet to call her mentally ill/crazy.

    I believe that the mentally ill, even when they do bad things, deserve our sympathy. Sociopaths are a different story entirely... for them, nothing more than due process of law and a cell to rot in.
     
  17. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Now their saying she killed her brother with a shotgun, then was arrested. The Police chief supposedly told the officers to release her to her parents.

    She is a nut job.
     
  18. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    I still believe in evil as opposed to mentally ill. I believe this woman is evil.

    The legal test for "guilty but insane" is so rigid that few killers ever successfully plea that. Some would say that all killers are insane but even our law doesn't believe that.
     
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    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    Yep, and she killed her brother during an argument. It's not too late to prosecute her for that too if they choose.
     
  20. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    "Criminally insane" means the person was completely unable to know the difference between right and wrong.

    You, for instance, are "criminally insane." :D

    "Crazy, "nuts," "unbalanced," "freakin' crazy," all fall under a different category.

    There is NO diversity of meaning in court for "criminally insane."

    Criminally insane: "A defense asserted by an accused in a criminal prosecution to avoid liability for the commission of a crime because, at the time of the crime, the person did not appreciate the nature or quality or wrongfulness of the acts.

    The insanity defense is used by criminal defendants. The most common variation is cognitive insanity. Under the test for cognitive insanity, a defendant must have been so impaired by a mental disease or defect at the time of the act that he or she did not know the nature or quality of the act, or, if the defendant did know the nature or quality of the act, he or she did not know that the act was wrong. The vast majority of states allow criminal defendants to invoke the cognitive insanity defense." Link