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Al-Qaeda chief calls for agents in US to start small scale attacks

Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by ArgentineSteel, Sep 13, 2013.

  1. ArgentineSteel

    ArgentineSteel Vancouver, WA Active Member

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    Praising the Boston Bombing and calling for more like this the current living head of Al-Qaeda called for the hidden cells of terrorists to continue small random attacks across the nation and pray for the uprising Ummah.

    How's your plan for personal defense?

    So this guy is living in the border areas between Pakistan and Afghanistan. Could Obama ask Congress to maybe allow an unbelievably small strike on this guy?

    One of those "pin-pricks" Obama mentioned would do it.

    Al-Qaeda chief calls for attacks on US in 9/11 speech to followers - Telegraph
    In an audio message released yesterday, Zawahiri laid out a plan of attack, saying he wanted a "few of the brothers" to commit small-scale strikes to trigger big spending by Washington on security, while awaiting the opportunity for a major onsalught later.

    "We should bleed America economically by provoking it to continue in its massive expenditure on its security, for the weak point of America is its economy, which has already begun to stagger due to the military and security expenditure," he said.

    Keeping America in such a state of tension and anticipation only required a few disparate attacks "here and there", he said.

    "As we defeated it in the gang warfare in Somalia, Yemen, Iraq and Afghanistan, so we should follow it with ...war on its own land. These disparate strikes can be done by one brother or a few of the brothers."

    At the same time, Muslims should seize any opportunity to land "a large strike" on the United States, even if this took years of patience,
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    "What the American regime refuses to admit is that al Qaeda is a message before it was an organization," he said.

    Zawahiri, suspected by many security specialists to be living in the Pakistan-Afghanistan border area​
     
  2. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Most likely BS propaganda to stir up support for attacking Syria/Iran. How can these propagandists say this stuff with a straight face? I bet they really miss their fake boogeyman poster child.

    After all, the people scripting the propaganda want us in Syria fighting alongside the worst Al Qaeda terrorists there are; bloodthirsty child murders and marauding Christian-killers.

    There hasn't been even one real "Al-Qaeda" attack on US soil, so there is little reason to believe this tripe. In fact, currently, Israel and the US are Al-Qaeda's biggest supporters (Syria).

    http://www.thedailysheeple.com/syri...o-convert-jesus-didnt-come-to-save-him_092013
     
  3. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    I suspect another attack on US soil would not go well for Al-Qaeda, not well at all!
     
  4. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Well if our mis-leaders have their way and get WWIII going it will be a non issue. Bombs dropping on US cities is a likely scenario. Then we'll see how happy dumbed-down Americans are with war. We love it when it is only 'over there.'

    As far as domestic terror attacks, not likely. We do 90% of the terrorizing globally and since all we have anymore for exports are war and death we are very well protected.

    The whole 'get them over there before they get us here' is a played out and tired anthem. Domestic terror here won't happen unless self-inflicted as an excuse to invade another country and kill a few million innocents.
     
  5. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    Burt, how about some specific examples of the United States invading another country without cause and killing a few million innocents. In my sheltered life, I can't think of one. Educate me.
     
  6. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    While Burt may push the "doom & gloom" a bit much, it's not without validity. There was Vietnam, where Eisenhower clearly stated that the Vietnamese were to vote to decide if they wanted communism or not. Then they voted, but they voted wrong. Since they didn't do what we wanted, we faked the Gulf of Tonkin incident(even he government doesn't deny it any more. It never happened and that is disgusting.) and caused the deaths of nearly 75,000 Americans and only God knows how many Vietnamese, North and South, with communism still taking over.

    I still am confused about Iraq. I would like to think we were doing the right thing, but we don't remove dictator's like Hussein(Saddam, not Barrack, though both are quite dangerous.), Gadaffi, Assad or any other because they kill innocents, we remove them when they stop doing what we want. Gadaffi died when he had the audacity to sell his oil to whom he chose, not to whom we instructed him. Now that we have Iran and other countries threatening to trade outside the US dollar(that is a VERY big deal), which would reduce us to 3rd world status in about half an hour if enough or the right countries follow suit. So, here comes the fake war with Syria(because somehow 1,000 Syrian lives are worth FAR more than 500,000 Kurds.) in order to hit Iran in order to keep folks in check and the Petrol Dollar alive and well.

    I hate to say it, but we've been lied to. We do things to pad the pockets of the rich and turn a blind eye to atrocity when things are good(ask Clinton about Bosnia and Rwanda. Who wants to get involved in that when you're busy taking credit for a booming economy created by the internet, not Clinton policy?) and only want to "save the day" in Syria when a fake dollar needs saving and we need to distract from the IRS, NSA, F&F, Obummercare, gun right infringements, suspending immigration laws and all the other BS going on.

    I used to think that the "conspiracy theorist" was the one getting taken for a ride. Unfortunately, I can't help but pay attention and the fact of the matter is that all the things we were told weren't possible when we warned America of the dangers of electing a Leftist Radical are in fact happening.

    America the people are still generally good and worth saving. America the government is guilty of vile, horrible things. We don't even deny it any more(just look at The Gulf of Tonkin Incident that DIDN'T EVEN HAPPEN.).
     
  7. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    If we are going to go bomb every country that is a financial threat to us, let's just be honest about it. I want to keep my 70" LED TV, my gas guzzler, my toys just like any other American male. I just don't want women and kids to have to burn alive for me to keep all the toys. It is called a conscience.

    [video=youtube;djwPqAJ_3GY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djwPqAJ_3GY[/video]
     
  8. jimwsea

    jimwsea Vancouver, Washington state Active Member

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    The international bankers are more of our enemy than the al Queda they helped to create. These bankers profit off of both sides of manufactured conflict and have been doing it for centuries.
     
  9. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    Some of ya'll need to put down the cool aid. Petroleum is a national security item because joe the plumber loves his v8. The UN and most of the rest of the best intelligence agencies concluded Saddam had Wmds Btw gas is a WMD. Giving him 10 years to hide it, that was dumb. He gassed the Kurds going back to the 80s. He got gulf 1 and 2 because he invaded Kuwait and wouldn't behave to our then Administrations liking as well as supporting terrorists and swearing he would annihilate Israel. Obama wants to show he is powerful on the world stage. That will be the only reason he attacks Syria. Because the rest of the reasons such as humanitarian ,gas, etc. don't hold up to history of our interventions. He's a an amateur poker player which despite his supposed smarts doesn't make him a Good poker player. Putin kills anyone in his country he sees as a threat and keeps a straight face about it because he's Ex KGB. So he has had years to play poker and keep a poker face and bodies don't upset him. I say stay out of Syria because Mr Ineptitude missed his golden opportunity 18 months ago.... And these knuckleheads can go on slaughtering each other till the sand turns red. They've gutted each others and innocents for what 6-700 years now? If Israel can to.erate Assad's Syria next door for 20 years or so why should we bother or get involved. It's about the pride of an arrogant man and that is the most dangerous WMD involved right now. Kennedy made the Russians blink. Kennedy was familiar with war. BHO is familiar with organizing communities. Putin knows he'll blink if he keeps raising the stakes. I hope he does blink. If not well start raising your own veggies and chickens, strip down your SUV and hitch it to the horses to go to town.

    Brutus out.
     
  10. jimwsea

    jimwsea Vancouver, Washington state Active Member

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    I agree about the oil, Brutus, but there is a bit more. Syria, Iran and North Korea are the only countries left without a central bank run by the international bankers. US saber rattling is presently directed at these targets. Two years ago, Libya's central bank was not run by the international bankers, and as the song goes..."whoomp, there it is"...along with a huge, interest-bearing loan for the infrastructure repair bill payable to the international bankers. In other words, the US military is being used to install central banks for the international bankers.
     
  11. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    The funny thing about Al Qaeda is that every time they make an attack, they can never do it again. I have to give them quite a bit of credit for being able to come up with new ways to attack us, even if most plots are foiled or have little impact. Interestingly, Al Qaeda has made it so no terrorist group will never be able to hijack an airplane ever again. Anyone who tries is nearly instantly attacked and subdued by the other passengers, I'm sure there are even a few people who get drunk and act weird on airplanes who have been badly injured or killed for their trouble as a result. (Note: the TSA has made zero difference)

    Boston bombings, yea, someone might try this again, but the chances of it happening with any success are essentially zero.

    Will a truckload of explosives ever be allowed to drive anywhere near a high-rise again: Nope

    With the last few mass shootings, the only places where these are going to continue to happen are gun-free zones. The number of people who legally carry a firearm on their person is growing in every state that allows it, and most of these people take this duty seriously, and actually train with the firearm (unlike most cops, who maybe shoot twice a year).

    Al Qaeda is quickly getting to the point where the only weapon available to them is harsh language and dire prognostications. The only thing I regret about the exhaustive nature of our drone program is that it kills all the terrorists, I really think we need to capture them and put them in zoos.
     
  12. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    I agree with most all of your posts. I also used to warn of too much Kool-Aid. I hate to bring it up again, but I told people that believed the Gulf of Tonkin was fake that they were crazy. Then our government actually came out and said that it really didn't happen. Don't you have a little more "inside track" than the rest of us? Was the USS Liberty a Kool-Aid thing, or did Israeli's knowingly strafe our ship and Americans for 4 hours? All these "dictators" are tolerated for 20-30 years, then killed as soon as they oppose the dollar. After a while, it seems like the ones gulping the Kool-Aid are the ones telling the rest to put the Kool-Aid down.

    I sincerely respect you and your posts, including the one above. These things that I speak of aren't things that I learned from dudes with silver ponytails through a haze of pot smoke, they are facts that when all put together, show quite an extensive trail of lies and fleecing done by our politicians for someone else's good other than the American citizenry. I think I put the Kool-Aid down when I stopped believing that we enter wars or remove dictators because it has anything to do with what is "right". I'll tell you, this is one situation where I hope I'm dead wrong, but I'm already growing my own vegetables and chickens. I'll strip the Tahoe down as soon as the lights go out. After all, I'll need that gas for the generator.
     
  13. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    I am not an economist. What happens when the US dollar is replaced as reserve currency by Russia, China or anyone else? To me, it seems important enough to actually fight for, since I imagine that our currency being downgraded would reduce us to 3rd world status instantly. Am I wrong? Could we still remain THE power if our currency was downgraded? It seems like a big deal and a way for our enemies to hit us hard, but again, an economist I am not.
     
  14. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    There are two reasons why US currency has remained stable for the last 50 years, despite MASSIVE overspending by the government. The US despite the loss of many manufacturing jobs is still the world's #1 producer of high quality high technology products. Sure, you can have IC's made in china, but they can't be designed there. Russia can design the IC, but it will be 5x larger and made like a truck, and the first dozen revisions won't work right. Further, if you need airplanes, you can deal with europe or the US, and the US makes at least a dozen varieties, europe only makes one. While this stuff is all important, the real reason: We control the food.

    The US has a tiny population density when compared to every other first world country with modern agriculture (in fact, we wrote the book on modern agriculture), the only countries with a smaller population density have a good portion of their land area at or above the arctic circle (Russia, sweden, norway, finland, canada) or are a country made entirely of desert (australia)(1). The US produces most of the food that keeps the world from starving. When we turn off the food tap, the third world starves.(2) But it's not just the third world that's dependent on our products, but even the BRIC economies(3,4).

    If the US currency were to suddenly eat &$#* grain prices would go through the roof, in ways that commodities and exchange markets would never be able to keep up with, this would essentially suspend foreign grain sales (commodities markets would quickly run up the futures price of grain) and would price it beyond the reach of the third world, the only people who would be able to afford most farm products would be the arab oil shihks, the european royalty, and the chinese communist party. How long do you think that's going to last? Peasants in china will riot overnight, possibly resulting in nukes being used domestically in china to quell rebellion. Once nukes are in play, don't count on india and pakistan being left out (both are populous countries dependent on grain imports). Europe might be a bit more stable, but you can count on them trimming the socialist fat: Portugal, Ireland, Greece, Spain.

    This is why I laugh every time Burt starts talking about US currency as the "petro dollar", he's right to a point, in that we're willing to trade our dollars for oil, but the important issue for those who get our dollars: they can buy food with our dollars. As the US works more and more towards oil independence the global economy is going to shift, when we arn't buying as much oil from them, they won't be able to buy as much food from us. Other than natural resources, what can you buy from a third world country? (Don't say free trade African handi-crafts)

    If you want to look only at the oil/dollar relationship, you can easily conclude that the whole thing is built on a false foundation. But look at all the stuff we export (5), the world is as or more dependent on us, than we are on them. This is why USD is the world's reserve currency.

    References:
    1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...d_dependent_territories_by_population_density
    2: Recalling ?Tortilla Riots,? Mexico President Warns About Food Crisis
    3: China Gobbling Up Wheat, as US Exports to Nation Soar
    4: People's Republic of China
    5: Top US Exports
     
  15. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills Cave Creek, Arizony Well-Known Member

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    Thank You for clearing that all up for me
    I had no idea the us exported so much grain
     
  16. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    Didn't you leave out where our enemies are attempting to trade outside the dollar? I have no problem with our dollar being used for oil, but oil, groceries or fighter jets, if the rest of the world removes the US Dollar from its role as reserve currency for the world, it all falls down.

    I'm sorry, I don't believe all the things we make can't be made elsewhere. We made a lot of effort to get Nazi scientists out alive. I'm sure it would be in someone else's interests to keep our brains working as well.

    There are prairies all over this rock that can grow wheat. The amount of that exported has to do with treaties nd agreements, not because we are the only place in the world able to grow grass seed. Once the folks we've been standing on for 100 years align to make the US irrelevant, then I get scared. Russia, China and their friends seem to be doing that right now.
     
  17. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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    There is a reason they are forming the BRICS bank...
    Watch Out, World Bank: Here Comes the BRICS Bank

    Payments Using Chinese Yuan Continue to Surge as Currency Tops Russian Rouble in Popularity | CNS News

    A transition won't happen overnight with the flip of a switch, but it is dangerous to assume that the US Dollar will continue as the world's reserve currency for even another decade. A change has happened many times in the short history of the world (see chart). It will happen again.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defa...03/imageroot/2012/01/20120103_JPM_reserve.png

    Peter
     
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  18. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    One of the other things I didn't mention is that I don't care if the USD remains the world reserve currency or not. I have a pretty small holding of my assets in dollars, and most of that is intended to cover operational costs and expenses, when my cash on hand gets too high I buy something with it, usually durable goods or raw materials, because no matter what happens (even if somehow the bottom falls out of either of these markets I can still produce a product with it).

    The value of china's currency is pegged to the USD, whether they like it or not, mostly because they hold trillions in US treasury notes. If the BRICs devalue the dollar they will suddenly have a huge problem, as our imports will be more affordable the world over, and imports to the US will be expensive here, meaning all of these economies will have a more difficult time selling their goods here. However, while our dollar is cheaper we can repay the notes issued with cheaper dollars. The only fly in this ointment is that our government depends on deficit spending to make ends meet, this means they need to keep selling T-bills, if they can't sell T-bills, the government will be in a world of S (that's assuming a cheaper dollar, and a boom in US exports doesn't raise the tax base).

    One other little tid bit... The population of the BRICs is about half the world population (India 1.23b, China 1.36b, Russia 144m, Brazil 201m) and except for Brazil, they are all very geographically close to each other, and they also have some very serious natural resource issues, neither India or China have enough clean drinking water and both have very serious issues with arable farm land (as a result of water-use issues), and Russia doesn't have enough population to make full use of it's arable land which is also limited by the climate. Brazil is the exception to these limitations, it also has a very young population that is becoming better educated and more upwardly mobile.

    Economics and Demographics are two issues that are tied closely together, and neither is static, but there are trends that form over time. Extrapolating the future based on present trends can easily be upset by new trends. It's important to remember the level of linking and dependence between world economies works both ways. Sure the BRICs can form their own bank, and upset the world bank, that's fantastic, the US should have pulled out of the world bank and the IMF years ago, they support the interests of the europeans much more than they do the US. Just like we should stop funding the UN at the levels we do.

    But that's another conversation entirely.
     
  19. cookie

    cookie THE SOCIALIST STATE OF KALI - FORNIA Well-Known Member

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    WHY?
     
  20. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    AQ would use proxies and with Obama's help they would succeed but currently it is counter productive to Stampede the Sheeple, better to nudge them along towards disarmament so that when the wolves are turned lose they cower in easily slaughtered groups