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AK identification

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by rockstardrnkr, Sep 29, 2013.

  1. rockstardrnkr

    rockstardrnkr Vancouver Active Member

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    Well i picked up my first Ak in a trade today I have never had any interaction with them. I do know a little about the rifle, it is a Norinco hunter I was told it was a type 2 but dont know what that means or how to verify.

    Also I was wondering if anyone had links on how to identify how old the rifle is, I have tried the search engines and didnt find much, maybe I was not asking the right questions?


    Anyhow any help and info is greatly appreciated, also anyone personal likes and dislikes on these rifles,
     
  2. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    Well its no newer than 1994. Its probably about as collectible as an unconverted Saigax39 rifle. I believe 'Type II' means that there is no factory-installed optical side mount. Apparently they make a great base for a Galil clone.

    Keith
     
  3. rockstardrnkr

    rockstardrnkr Vancouver Active Member

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    that would make sense the guy told me it was made before the brady act went into effect,

    it does looked to be drilled for a scope mount, but I didnt care too much for the looks of the scope on them anyhow.
     
  4. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Pictures?
     
  5. rockstardrnkr

    rockstardrnkr Vancouver Active Member

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    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    I saw one of those for sale on Outdoorstrader the guy wants $700 for it.
    Interesting none the less. Shame that they went with that style of FCG. The Saiga .308 suffered the same fate. Had they just gone with a standard trigger it would have made all the difference.
     
  7. rockstardrnkr

    rockstardrnkr Vancouver Active Member

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    Actually thats this one, I traded him just a little while ago.
     
  8. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    I've always found the 'Hunter' style, whether it be Saiga, Valmet, etc, to be a little goofy looking for an AK, but I definitely see the utility of one if actually used for hunting. That 30 rounder hanging off there is probably overkill, but decent 10-round and 5-round AK mags can be had relatively inexpensively. I actually use converted 10-round Saiga mags when I shoot regular AKs from prone position.

    Keith
     
  9. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Oh, small world.
    I would say its going to be a collector piece. Much like the Saiga 100 and PAR-1 pump AK series and others.
    15-20 years from now they'll be scarce. Great for the collector.
     
  10. rockstardrnkr

    rockstardrnkr Vancouver Active Member

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    haha I thought the same thing, I have 5 mags with it, 3 of which are the 5 rounders. I figure Ill get out there and try it out
     
  11. rockstardrnkr

    rockstardrnkr Vancouver Active Member

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    Yeah, dont know how many times I have run into someone I have done a deal with. And honestly this forum and sometimes OT has proven to have some great people. Kind of odd that Crazy gun owning folks can actually be decent honest humans.
     
  12. CamoDeafie

    CamoDeafie Albany Well-Known Member

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    these were made to the same receiver design as the Galil and Valmet's Hunter based on the M62; the latter is quite collectible, the former is basically popular....you could convert it to a Galil clone or a Valmet M62 clone.. or you could leave it alone and use it as is..
     
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    biggie24420 Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Oh the fun you could have with this rifle..... mmmmm. I would second the Galil conversion if you ever decided to go that route. Ugh I'm drollin'.
     
  14. Beagle

    Beagle Puyallup WA Member

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    this should make it even better. the 386 in oval on the receiver means it was made by polytech! so a good score. I would just leave it the way it is and some time down the road it will be worth much more than you spent on it.
     
  15. mancat

    mancat Kitsap County Well-Known Member

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    Yep.. A lot of people have converted the Norinco Hunter into a 7.62x39 Galil/Valmet clone. Not very hard to do.

    However there are a lot of people that like these rifles and will pay top-dollar for them as collectibles. If you decide to modify it, consider this and think about selling it before you potentially lessen the value by irreversibly modifying it.

    Here is one given the Galil treatment:

    Bv2PR8b.jpg
     
  16. hoody

    hoody Tigard/Beaverton area Active Member

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    Actually, it just means it was made in factory 386. Norinco and PolyTech are the Chinese export companies that sell rifles made in Chinese state-owned factories. Norinco and PolyTech both exported rifles from factory 386 (and other factories).
     
  17. rockstardrnkr

    rockstardrnkr Vancouver Active Member

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    wow that is one nice looking rifle, definantly makes me think twice about converting it. however I do like the stock look as well.
     
  18. CamoDeafie

    CamoDeafie Albany Well-Known Member

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    I personally think the stock appearance would be more..useful for you....yeah, you lose the awesome pistol grip, and the various doodads and such but..honestly? that or the Kel-tec SU-16 or the Remington Woodmaster/Gamemaster/autos/ 716 pump ....I would pick that over them every time....
     
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    Mongo1 Santiam Canyon Active Member

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    I've had two of these. They boith had milled receivers.
     
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    ma96782 Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    During that importation era........

    The Poly Tech "Legend" was the milled receiver version. They sell for top dollar today as collectables. They also had the regular sheet metal versions.

    The Norinco was seen as the everyday man's AK. They are made with thicker sheet metal than they typical Euro import of today. Not to mention, that Norinco tried to supply Los Angeles street gangs with full auto AKs and other "destructive toys." Of course the Chinese Govt says Norinco wasn't to blame.

    Never the less, both are collectable today because they aren't imported anymore.

    Aloha, Mark

    PS........if you decide to convert that rifle to a "real AK" style firearm, please follow the law as the to the number of US made parts count.