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AK 47 ???(PAR 1)

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by Cell Block 726, Jul 31, 2014.

  1. Cell Block 726

    Cell Block 726 Oregon Member

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    So I really know nothing of these weapons nor have I had any interest, but wanted to get some insight. I may be acquiring 3 pump action AK style weapons, I believe known as romanian PAR 1 and PAR 3. one is .223 and two are 7.62, can anyone give more details and are they even worth much???
     
  2. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    I owned one (7.62x39) here are my experiences and observations..

    They are collectors items BUT they are only worth $250-$350.

    The front assembly is a beast all of its own and uses proprietary parts.
    If you are a machinist or wood worker it'll be no issue should anything break.. The three parts I was worried about:

    * Forearm: prone to cracking.. As some have noted.. Worth while to make a spare. You also cant disassemble and clean the barrel unless you take the forearm, pump handle and
    "action bar/gas piston" pin out..
    The pins holding it all together are like G3/Cetme spring pins so the just pop out but hold in there well when you need them to.


    * Pump handle- this is just plastic and would probably last.. But who knows.. I was going to make a custom one out of PVC.

    * "Gas piston" or better termed "action bar" that takes the place of the piston
    (Its a special part and may or may not crack..)

    No spare parts on the market that I could find when I owned mine.

    Double stack receiver
    (uses standard AK mags) and bolt.

    Because all the gas pressure is shot out the barrel the cases can stick a little due to the pressure.

    Damn accurate for an AK.

    Side rail scope mount and a scope will aid with the rifle because it is quite accurate..
    However you'll need to get a new dust cover because the proprietary one has a retarded iron sight.

    The pistol grip and buttstock assembly is all the same as a standard AK.

    Any other questions?

    On armslist there was a guy who had both for a while for $250 per but wouldn't separate.. Or wouldn't when I asked if he'd be interested.
    Might be long gone now.

    You "can" convert them back to their semi auto glory.. But it takes an S-ton of work.

    All in all I regret selling mine.. But I needed cash. I may buy another should it walk into my life again.
     
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  3. 2Wheels4Ever

    2Wheels4Ever Portland Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer

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    They are kind of cool and unique, but most people have them way overpriced. Like he said above, $250-$300 is what they are worth. When you can get very good Aks today for $500, a pump action one made to comply with stupid laws in not worth the same amount.
     
  4. Cell Block 726

    Cell Block 726 Oregon Member

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    Thank you for the all the information!!! I really thought it seemed pointless as a pump and yes driven to comply with state laws! would it be safe to say I would probaly be able to sell them for close to 250.00 each if I ended up acquiring them?? and would there be interest among the gun culture?
     
  5. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Id buy the 7.62x39
     
  6. tanzuki

    tanzuki Salem Active Member

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    Not to high jack this thread but I know Aks have a reputation of not being very accurate and compared to an AR I'd tend to agree, but I just went out shooting yesterday and 100 yards with my O-PAP and my BIL N-PAP we could practically play a tune with the 1/2" plate we were shooting at that were around 18" square pieces. We weren't shooting groups but they seem to be plenty accurate for SHTF scenario.
     
  7. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Yep. The N and Opap (M70) AK variants are quite stout for AKs.

    The reason the pump action AKs are a little more accurate is there isnt any jostling by the BCG/gas piston.

    Its a real shame they dont attempt to update the pump action AK design for our brothers in commie states.
     
  8. castanedatl

    castanedatl gervais Member

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    hey bud, id be interested in the par-3 .225-5.56..

    im a bit short on cash but always willing to trade cash plus ammo or my services, im a welder by trade..

    let me kno, thankyou..