After a Nuclear event

[wired]

Wouldn't airburst be well above hills?

Yes, but you're getting into the hills and there's gonna be shadow areas all over the place. It's not going to be ultimate level destruction for the entire city.

 

[arakboss]

Yes, but you're getting into the hills and there's gonna be shadow areas all over the place. It's not going to be ultimate level destruction for the entire city.

At 5 megaton or less I might survive in Wilsonville. I am debating whether it's worth $20 to buy some KI tablets. I am guessing I might die from something else first?

 

[wired]

At 5 megaton or less I might survive in Wilsonville. I am debating whether it's worth $20 to buy some KI tablets. I am guessing I might die from something else first?

I carry potassium iodide around with me inmy truck doesn't hurt to have it

 

[arakboss]

Yes, but you're getting into the hills and there's gonna be shadow areas all over the place. It's not going to be ultimate level destruction for the entire city.

I am guessing they would want maximum damage at PDX and the two bridges so maybe the bomb blast would be more centered near PDX?

 

[wired]

I am guessing they would want maximum damage at PDX and the two bridges so maybe the bomb blast would be more centered near PDX?

First wave of attaks are gonna be hard enned military targets like silo, launch facilities, etc. submarine bases, stuff like that if there's a second wave of attack they start knocking out military installations that don't have launch capabilities and then you're getting into cities after that Portland I think it's gonna be pretty far down the list. The farther down the list you are the less of a chance of anything actually coming through after counter measures

 

[shanksbbq]

No need to physically destroy everything.
When an EMP takes down the entire grid and all the lights go off, and the water pumps don't work, and there's no ATMs and the toilets don't flush people going to be in a world of hurt.

EMP seems like the approach to be taken would wipe out all communications and transportation except for the few that took precautions for that instance. Without power most will die in the first year. Without communications, enemy armies could move in and wipe out areas with ease.

 

[arakboss]

EMP seems like the approach to be taken would wipe out all communications and transportation except for the few that took precautions for that instance. Without power most will die in the first year. Without communications, enemy armies could move in and wipe out areas with ease.

While I think an EMP attack may be attempted along with conventional strikes, I don't think Putin or China would try that by itself.

 

[wired]

While I think an EMP attack may be attempted along with conventional strikes, I don't think Putin or China would try that by itself.

If you're in the affected area of an EMP you have other stuff to worry about mainly the Thurman nuclear blast that set off that EMP. Standalone EMP's arer a thing of fiction.

 

[Angie]

I carry potassium iodide around with me inmy truck doesn't hurt to have it

I have it at home, but never thought to keep it in the truck. Good idea!

 

[wired]

I have it at home, but never thought to keep it in the truck. Good idea!

Yeah my truck is a rolling survivalist package. if im home it will be too.

 

[Tony617]

While I think an EMP attack may be attempted along with conventional strikes, I don't think Putin or China would try that by itself.

If the United States is hit with one or more EMPs, tand akes out most of the power in the United States, we will be finished. I expect our nukes to fly at some point if our ICBM are harded for EMP events. Our ballistic missile submarines will fire as well. I pray that does not happen.

 

[coreymet]

Please, let's not say this... some of us reside equidistant between the world's large nuclear submarine base, the Bremerton Naval Shipyard (always at least one carrier in port) and the biggest joint AF/Army base (JBLM) on the West Coast. Plus, Seattle, hub of the U.S. tech industry, Naval Station Everett, Jim Creek Naval Radio Station (VLF comms to our subs) ... it's not as though the Puget Sound region isn't the major W. Coast target...

No ferries. No airports. No Narrows or Hood Canal bridges. Highways destroyed. No fresh water. No way in or out for those of us on the West Sound.

If I -- and my family are here if this event occurred, we are within the blast zone, so there's really nothing to do. In the unlikely event we survive the initial blast, the region will be wholly uninhabitable, so the remaining options would be hunker down and die a very painful, slow death or...

The best we could hope for would be EMP strikes. A country boy can survive...

With any luck, Kim Jong Un, the Ayatollah, Ji Xinping or Vlad will launch when we're all back on the family land in Upper Michigan for whitetail season...

I grew up SE of Seattle/Renton. With all the targets in the Puget Sound, and the prevailing winds, I always figured (assuming I had enough warning) I would jump in my car and "Ground Zero or Bust". Rather be vaporized than die of radiation sickness.

 

[Camelfilter]

Potassium Iodide is for protecting the thyroid primarily for folks under 40.

Specifically from radioisotopes in the food chain.

Folks shouldn't start taking them just because nuclear bombs popped off here, or away. However should if they are eating foods in the food chain within a fallout zone or from a fallout zone. As in milk, fresh meat, fresh produce. AND they are under 40 years old.

Plus potassium iodide itself may damage thyroids AND also may not prevent thyroid cancers anyways.

Long term potassium iodide use will damage thyroids.

Pretty much, IMO, KI is a pointless scam for most folks. One which could be harmful, rather than helpful.

Notable: would be useful only to those whom have access to reliable radiation monitoring directly, or trusted sources for data. Also IMO.

Folks, if your in a fallout zone(s) shortly after nuclear events, your thyroid is about the least of your problems. It'd be akin to wrapping soft armor around your neck, then walking naked towards blindly firing machine gun nests. Repeatedly...

 

[Camelfilter]

...The question I have is if you survived the initial blast uninjured what do you think you would end up dying from? And how long do you think you would last before dying?...

Depends.

If folks survive the wildfires, and don't get gamma dosed initially (within weeks of "whatever"), then basically folks could die from anything else within the "end of civilization as we know it" realms.

Violence or starvation. Pretty much.

Try to avoid that...

 

[Angie]

Potassium Iodide is for protecting the thyroid primarily for folks under 40.

Specifically from radioisotopes in the food chain.

Folks shouldn't start taking them just because nuclear bombs popped off here, or away. However should if they are eating foods in the food chain within a fallout zone or from a fallout zone. As in milk, fresh meat, fresh produce. AND they are under 40 years old.

Plus potassium iodide itself may damage thyroids AND also may not prevent thyroid cancers anyways.

Long term potassium iodide use will damage thyroids.

Pretty much, IMO, KI is a pointless scam for most folks. One which could be harmful, rather than helpful.

Notable: would be useful only to those whom have access to reliable radiation monitoring directly, or trusted sources for data. Also IMO.

Folks, if your in a fallout zone(s) shortly after nuclear events, your thyroid is about the least of your problems. It'd be akin to wrapping soft armor around your neck, then walking naked towards blindly firing machine gun nests. Repeatedly...

It's easy enough to get a geiger counter. Also, instructions say to take it for 10 days (might be two weeks, I forget). Who would take it long term? It's inexpensive and a good prep to keep on hand, IMO. Thanks for the advice, though. I'll keep it in mind.

 

[Camelfilter]

...Also, instructions say to take it for 10 days (might be two weeks, I forget). Who would take it long term? It's inexpensive and a good prep to keep on hand, IMO. Thanks for the advice, though. I'll keep it in mind.

Dunno.

Maybe folks who don't have a Geiger counter, or know how to use one if they do. Or folks who don't read, or believe the directions. Or folks who don't understand, or simply don't believe the science behind what KI does and what KI does not do.

 

[Old Dog]

Good thing I watched Mad Max Beyond the Thunderdome today on HBO while I was putting off actual work -- new batteries for the Geiger counter!

 

[thekingoftroy]

Y'all really need to give this a watch/listen, this gal is dug as deep into this as it's possible to dig, she knows EVERYONE who is connected to this in any capacity, and knows the true aftermath we can expect! It's along interview, but riviting none the less! She and her reporting are far beyond question, so you only have to listen to what she has to say!

View: https://youtu.be/_06wReNbk-g?si=mY5jfw0VaYw6YRRW

Read her book if you haven't already. It's frightening to say the least.

 

[SCARed]

I am guessing they would want maximum damage at PDX and the two bridges so maybe the bomb blast would be more centered near PDX?

I'm thinking the Westside of Portland would be the target. Hitting the airport and bridges would just be a F-you to make living and traveling the area difficult. Hitting Intel and the other high tech companies in the surrounding area would have long lasting effect for the US as a tech player. The Intel fab in Hillsboro is their main R&D facility & fab. Many first of kind tools from vendors are also there. So it would have a big impact. Pun intended.

 

[Texmex247]

Well I'm in Texas and with all the military infrastructure here I'm sure our goose is cooked. I keep a few packs of iosat around. I'd like to live long enough to kill some commies if they invade but I'm sure the biggest threat will be US citizens with no survival skills trying to take everyone's stuff. I would partner up with trusted friends and neighbors and hopefully disappear to the GFS farm with thermals, suppressors and supplies and hope to hold out as long as possible.

I should probably get back into archery too. Arrows aren't noisy