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accidental misfire

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Rugerbub, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. Rugerbub

    Rugerbub OREGON Member

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    So I was out elk hunting this year over near John Day oregon. We spotted a heard of 40 or 50 elk about a 1 mile away from us. We decided to hop into my buddies truck so we could get closer. We placed all our rifles in the truck and took off. My buddies girlfriend was hunting with us and placed her gun in the back between the seats. She did not unload her gun(by the way she is a very safe and experienced hunter) Anyways we hit a slick spot and this stupid smart a.. toyota cut power to the truck like it is supposed to and we rolled 2 and a half times. When the truck came to a stop we all smelled that awesome smell of gun powder. Her gun had gone off and the safety was on, while the truck was rolling. I CHECKED THE SAETY AND IT WAS ON! The gun is a Ruger M77 270 and is a factory unaltered gun. I told u all this story to ask a question, has any ever heard of a gun firing when the safety is on?

    PS[ i know i know why did she have a bullet in the chamber? We all ahve rode hunted so dont judge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. Felt Lizard

    Felt Lizard The great NW Member

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    Other than the smell of gunpowder, what other evidence is there that the weapon had discharged?
     
  3. Rugerbub

    Rugerbub OREGON Member

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    Buller hole in the bottom of the truck ans a spent casin still in the bolt
     
  4. absoluterik07

    absoluterik07 Salem, OR Member

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    Sounds like evidence to me! Glad nobody was hurt. Anyways, to your question, I have only heard of the Remington 700 doing this on that dateline special or whatever. I would however take the gun to a gunsmith and have it looked at and definitely call the manufacturer and let them know about this instance as well. I assume that maybe the safety only disengages the trigger from being pulled and perhaps the inertia from the truck rolling allowed the firing pin to move forward. In any case, definitely find the root of the problem before using the gun. My $.02.
     
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    BigCat Portland Member

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  6. absoluterik07

    absoluterik07 Salem, OR Member

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    Wow I didn't even notice the mad typos! NWA Fo life!
     
  7. motohead185

    motohead185 Portland, OR Member

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    So the toyota rolled!:huh: I am guessing that you are all ok?
     
  8. Trick

    Trick St Helens Active Member

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    Get it checked.

    Years ago we had a rifle (not mine) discharge in a vehicle and it was policy even at that time that nobody ever had one chambered regardless of safety or not. Some of my buddies even go so far as to inspect the chambers prior to vehicle entry and leaving the bolts open.

    I just make sure everyone unloads and closes the bolts with the triggers depressed. Always afraid that an open bolt can cycle against somebody's leg or rattling closed when were traveling. Never have had an incident since and plan to keep it that way.

    Glad nobody was killed. That is truly scary as **** stuff.
     
  9. CaughtSteelin

    CaughtSteelin Oregon Member

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    Send the gun in. But I will agree that most everyone has road hunted. But wtf? You left it loaded? It takes less then a second to put a round in a chamber...
     
  10. Red Ryder

    Red Ryder Washington New Member

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    Most states have a legal requirement that guns be unloaded in a vehicle while hunting. I don't hunt in Oregon so I can't state the legal requirement. In WA state it is illegal to have a loaded rifle in or on a vehicle while moving.

    Most rifles do not have redundant safeties like many pistols do. Some rifles can be dropped and discharged, even with safeties on. The buddies girlfriend may be a "safe and experienced" hunter but having a loaded gun in a truck or other vehicle is upping the chance of having an unintentional discharge and a very bad practice.

    Road hunting does not mean having a loaded gun the truck. I wouldn't do it even if it was legal. Keep the gun unloaded. Put a round in your pocket so it's handy. Buy a gun with a detachable magazine that you can quickly load once you exit the truck. Sheesh.

    Now you know. Go do better. I'm glad no one got shot.
     
  11. python287

    python287 Neskowin,OR Active Member

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    When I hunt with anyone or by myself - we ALWAYS unload our rifles before getting into the rig- I mean everyone - you must have an open bolt or action-
    no loaded actions..

    anything less is asking for trouble or worse !
     
  12. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    Most likely it has just a little bit of firing pin protrusion into the bolt face and under extream circumstances most anything can happen! as you found out!
     
  13. ablaut

    ablaut Salem(ish), OR Member

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    Meh, two out of three ain't bad, right? Just kidding! Glad no one was hurt. Be careful out there, everyone
     
  14. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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    1st safety tip.... SLOW DOWN.

    Well, I have road hunted, which is exactly why I know how dangerous it can be to throw a chambered rifle in the truck and then go speeding off....
    It's easy to blame the rifle, but it's not the rifles fault. It was left in an unsafe condition and then tumbled in a truck like brass through a polisher. What happened was a direct result of carelessness on the part of the driver and the girl.
    Take care, and things like this are less likely to happen.
     
  15. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Wrong!

    Wrong! I haven't.

    Not saying I'm perfect because I've had my neanderthal moments but I just can't give you a free pass on scrutiny.
     
  16. SteelyDan

    SteelyDan Junction City Active Member

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    Aha! I found the problem! The Toyota committed suicide because it knew it would never be full size American iron!
     
  17. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Only an idiot road hunts with someone who doesn't unload their gun.
    There is no such thing as accidental discharge.

    Man I hope I am never in the same wood as you fools.
     
  18. swoop

    swoop Milwaukie, Oregon Well-Known Member

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  19. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Inform manufacturer, have rifle checked... Remember who's rifle didn't go off... they are safe to go hunting with again.
     
  20. orygun

    orygun West Linn Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    It's not legal to have rounds in your rifle while in a vehicle in Oregon either. I'll be honest and state that I do not always remove the rounds from my rifle's magazine while traveling. BUT (and that's big letters for a reason) I always double check to be sure there is not a round in the chamber my gun. Then I question everyone getting into the same truck to be sure they cleared their weapons.

    It's easy to be an "armchair quarterback", and we all have a tendency to learn from our mistakes, so don't take my "rules" as being judgmental. I'm glad that no one was hurt (or so it appears) and hope you all learn from this.

    By the way, it wouldn't hurt to have that rifle checked out.