Absolute smallest automatic available ...

[Certaindeaf]

I pulled this out of my shirt pocket to take pictures for you.

Beretta Jetfire 950, pre-safety (a bit thinner without the safety). There's a half-cock position for carry. All-metal, well-made centerfire.



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Nice shootah.
PH did a nice video on .22 vs .25 pocket guns..

 

[DeanMk]

NAA Black Widow in 22WMR is my "can't be seen" carry. Fits in the coin pocket of my jeans and no dodgy-tiny-auto-maybe-it'll-cycle nonsense. It's surprisingly accurate at 10 yards and really loud. It's not an automatic, but I'm sure you'll adjust... Come on up to Everett sometime and I'll be happy to prove it!

Nice thing about those NAA revolvers is that some come with a folding grip.
Can make for an extremely slim package.

Dean

 

[Certaindeaf]

Nice thing about those NAA revolvers is that some come with a folding grip.
Can make for an extremely slim package.

Dean

It's really a shoulder stock for lilliputians, bless their little hearts.

 

[xtratoy]

Remington RM380

 

[DeanMk]

Trailblazer Firearms LifeCard .22LR is very discreet. Fits in an altoids tin. (side note, I have family ties to this company.) The profile makes it extremely discrete.

ANDYinEVERSON,

This might be worth consideration, as well.
Check out what Sootch has to say about it.....

...and .22 Plinkster goes over differences with the new .22 MAGNUM version....

 

[Andy54Hawken]

ANDYinEVERSON,

This might be worth consideration, as well.
Check out what Sootch has to say about it.....

...and .22 Plinkster goes over differences with the new .22 MAGNUM version....

Thanks Dean ,
For the use I have in mind and how I would have use the pistol....I am not sure that would work for me.
Andy

 

[Caveman Jim]

You mean a semi-auto, like "45 automatic" right? My advice from just a few experiences trying tiny pocket pistols:

While extremely concealable, some can be a real booger to shoot. The little .32s and .380s I shot were super lightweight with kid-size grips and uncomfortably snappy recoil. Short barrels are surprisingly loud, too, even in diminutive calibers.

And I shot one .25... Once. The hammer (or slide or something) bit my hand and drew a single drop of blood from that web at the base of my thumb - on a freezing, windy day. Circa 1986, I still hate that moment.

IMHO, the more mouse guns you can shoot, the more informed you will be about what you end up buying.

^^^^THIS^^^^
What good is any gun that cannot be shot reasonably effective?

Good luck with your quest young man.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

You mean a semi-auto, like "45 automatic" right? My advice from just a few experiences trying tiny pocket pistols:

While extremely concealable, some can be a real booger to shoot. The little .32s and .380s I shot were super lightweight with kid-size grips and uncomfortably snappy recoil. Short barrels are surprisingly loud, too, even in diminutive calibers.

And I shot one .25... Once. The hammer (or slide or something) bit my hand and drew a single drop of blood from that web at the base of my thumb - on a freezing, windy day. Circa 1986, I still hate that moment.

IMHO, the more mouse guns you can shoot, the more informed you will be about what you end up buying.

I agree with this. The shorter the barrel and smaller the frame, the harder it is to shoot well. I remember when I had a tiny .22 beretta bobcat. That was a hateful, hateful gun even though it was only a .22

Having said that though there are small(ish) guns that time and again people say they can shoot well (for a small gun I mean). The sig p938 9mm is one of those. I think it's mostly due to the single action trigger and sights. It's pocketable as shown in post #55 above but of course is larger than something like a seecamp. SAS version has rounded edges which makes it even more pocketable. Some poeple don't like manual safeties though and this gun is designed to carry cocked and locked.
Size in hand:

SAS version

 

[DeanMk]

Has anyone ever A-B'd the Sig 938 to one of the Kahr's?
It appears to be about the size of an MK9 or maybe the K9.
There's still a small part of me that is jazzed over the Kahr pistols, even though I've heard both good and bad about them.

Dean

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Has anyone ever A-B'd the Sig 938 to one of the Kahr's?
It appears to be about the size of an MK9 or maybe the K9.
There's still a small part of me that is jazzed over the Kahr pistols, even though I've heard both good and bad about them.

Dean

Size vs K9

 

[joken]

I have a LCP that lis in my pocket if I'm awake. I don't even know it's there comfort wise.

 

[DeanMk]

Size vs K9
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Yeah, I did some more research after I asked that and it seems to be slightly larger than the mk9. Alloy frame keeps the Sig about 6 oz. lighter, though.
Thanks for the pic. Puts a lot in prospective.

Dean