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Say it isn't so! Without lies the anti-gunners and the left have nothing. Without their own failures at leadership, they don't have much to complain about.

I have been deployed to the middle east, central and south America. The few times I have been, oh s*** scared, was in LA, San Bernardino and Oakland. Places where I for serious, almost got murdered. Never once by legal gun owners. Never in the presence of the po-lice and I'll go out on a limb. Always by someone on parole or probation.
 

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Oh, that's all right.... "They" claim that OIS are gun violence and describe it as "police killings" too. To be fair, "they" should be describing DGUs as murders/assaults, and suicides as self-murder. As well as the defensive warning display of a firearm as "McCloskey style brandishings".

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I have a better Idea - why don't we all just get out and shoot - paper, gongs or kill pinecones like I do and post range reports, pics of shooting etc. - and quit continually rehashing the negativity of what we see in the news ?

Just a thought.....

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TTSX

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I get the point, however, a violent act performed against a human with a gun would seem like "gun violence" to me... Even though justified, it's still violence
 
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Even though justified, it's still violence
If a self - defense act with a firearm is legally carried out AND 'justified' it cannot be considered 'violent'.

It would be an actionable and acceptable response to the threat.

Trust me - if you are ever in a situation where you have to use a firearm for 'justified self defense' - 'violence' ain't on your mind....
 
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TTSX

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If a self - defense act with a firearm is legally carried out AND 'justified' it cannot be considered 'violent'.

It would be an actionable and acceptable response to the threat.

Trust me - if you are ever in a situation where you have to use a firearm for 'justified self defense' - 'violence' ain't on your mind....
Uhhhh... Sure. Violence is violence, justified, intended or otherwise
 

po18guy

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I have a better Idea - why don't we all just get out and shoot - paper, gongs or kill pinecones like I do and post range reports, pics of shooting etc. - and quit continually rehashing the negativity of what we see in the news ?

Just a thought.....

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I don't consume or otherwise expose myself to ignorance that upsets me. Most certainly not for purposes of being told what to think.

If only ABC would lament Vehicular Violence.

36.096 killed in 2019.
2,740,000 injured.

When will this bloodshed, this madness stop???
 

Old Dog

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I get the point, however, a violent act performed against a human with a gun would seem like "gun violence" to me... Even though justified, it's still violence
Does the media term criminal acts of stabbings or slashings as "knife violence?"

Does the media term intentional criminal acts of bad actors using motor vehicles to run down innocent people as "car violence?"

Does the media term use of explosive devices (i.e., the Boston Marathon Bombing) as "explosives violence?"

How about the recent video of people getting the snot beaten out of them on the streets of Brooklyn, et al? Did the media headlines read "Fist violence" or "Foot Violence?"

The use of a modifier preceding the word "violence" can be construed as implying the gun caused the violent act.

So -- let's not buy into this artificial construct and let the media frame the acts of criminals.

It's VIOLENCE. What tool is used, should not matter.

We are letting the antis indoctrinate the masses with the concept that it's the guns that create the ills from which our society suffers.

Stop it, now!
 
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