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A taste of TSHTF

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by coastal steelheader, Feb 23, 2014.

  1. coastal steelheader

    coastal steelheader Aberdeen Well-Known Member

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  2. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    Yup! It won't be pretty....
     
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  3. GOG

    GOG State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Guns will make a difference, but it will be a terrible, ugly time if it should happen.

    There's also some amazingly ignorant comments on the video.
     
  4. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    One guy commented that paintball was "like fighting w/real gunz"
    Lord what an idiot
     
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  5. GOG

    GOG State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    He'll be one of the first to go...
     
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  6. idahoan

    idahoan Boise, Idaho Active Member

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    oddly enough I don't look down on anyone that tries to get any training that they can get, and yes if you keep in mind the differences you can get some pretty good training out of paintball/airsoft/laser tag, hell the military uses laser tag, course they had to give it a cooler name and came up with MILES gear.

    I have used MILES gear at JRTC at Fort Polk and it was very intense, not compared to real combat but definitely intense.
     
  7. mrblond

    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    Snipers..
     
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  8. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    As an official observer of the West Point paint ball games I can conclusively say that there is NO similarity what so ever.
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    bullets are not stopped by clear plastic/ sheet metal like paint-balls
    I could go on but I think the above vid shows what happens when you use paint ball tactics against bullets
    BTW there is also a food shortage in Kiev due to Govt. blockades
     
  9. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    In the comments section of the original link there is a link to a 40 minute extended vid of the same scene. It looks to me the protesters were geared up for less than lethal attacks against them while occupying the square. I mean some of them have cardboard armor for rubber bullets I assume.
    In other vids it looks like most of the square is deserted and these guys just didn't leave in time before the real bullets started to fly.
    Otherwise why would they stay and be picked off like sitting ducks?
     
  10. idahoan

    idahoan Boise, Idaho Active Member

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    The two things that paintball/airsoft/lasertag can teach you are the most important things in a firefight, and it has nothing to do with your weapon.
    1: paying attention to your surroundings
    2: teamwork
     
  11. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    It will get ugly for civilians before they get to the front of the line and most, if not all will be in survival mode and not be think of toeing the line but staying alive at all cost.
     
  12. mrblond

    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    The way things like this go, and what may happen here if things get worse here, is whoever the army sides with will win. I pray to the god almighty it doesn't happen here because I will fight and I really don't want to be killed by a fellow American.
     
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    cpy911 Newberg Active Member

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    Those guys need some rifles to protect themselves! Oh wait, its probably illegal to have them there, like in Connecticut. Nothing like disarmament as a prelude to genocide.
     
  14. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Its a shame that we even have a thread like this. How far America has fallen.
     
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    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Happens in other countries, I guess it may be our time soon.
     
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    cpy911 Newberg Active Member

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    Yea, just need all the states to join Connecticut and we will be left with muzzle loaders to protect ourselves, if we are lucky.
    I did see one of the Ukrainian protestors with an air rifle and another guy with a handgun. That is the extent of their armament.
    The so called free syrian army is better armed thanks to ????

     
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    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Its :nuts:.
     
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    cpy911 Newberg Active Member

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    Just watch this video an extended version and you see several guys taken out by live gunfire....unarmed.
    Ukraine - Kiev Maidan square the heart of the revolution - YouTube

    The amazing thing is these guys are still putting up a presence and moving along with their protest despite being shot at. They are brave and are willing to die for their cause. Wow.

    Check out 12:05 ....sheet metal vs rifle round...his chrome shield gave away his position and got him killed. Insane...madness.
     
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    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    the thing is about revolution, there are always two sides . I cant say I condemn the government for shooting the " unarmed " protesters. on the other hand i applaud the protesters for going for what they want and making change where they feel its needed.
     
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    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    The Ukrainians have bigger stones than Americans
     
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