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A REP FROM WASINGTON SUPPORTS

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Nightshade, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. Nightshade

    Nightshade vancouver,WA Well-Known Member

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    SALMON CREEK, Wash. – An incoming state representative from Camas is considering a proposal to change state law to allow guns in schools.

    Republican Liz Pike wants to bring up a bill that would let teachers carry concealed guns in the classroom.

    Under Pike's proposal, teachers at schools like Salmon Creek Elementary could volunteer to go through mental evaluations and week-long gun training at their own expense. They would also buy their own guns to bring into their classes and wear on a belt or in a holster – not in a purse or drawer.

    Every school district would get to choose if teachers can carry weapons. Pike said it would be confidential and only law enforcement and the superintendent would know which teachers have weapons.

    "They're designed to be concealed, and in a perfect situation a student will never see that gun," Pike said.

    She posted her idea on her Facebook page, asking for feedback. She said it would be like the federal program for pilots that started after 9/11 where they can volunteer to train and carry.

    Pike believes that mentally ill people would then understand that schools are not gun-free zones and they would not want to attack them like the shooter did in Sandy Hook.

    "There is a possibility that there will be a teacher protecting those children and there might be somebody (the teacher) shooting back," Pike said. "It's basically a message to the mentally ill people that would do these terrible things to our children in our schools."

    But some other state representatives disagree.

    "I think we just need to be better prepared to handle the mental health issues that come up," said Rep.-elect Monica Stonier, D-Vancouver. "People who are looking for ways to hurt other people will do that whether there is a gun around or not. So we need to be approaching that from a mental health perspective."

    Stonier said she supports the Second Amendment but believes guns in schools would not make kids safer.

    "That's not fool proof, and to have guns in a classroom with my children, or anybody's children, when the focus isn't on gun safety and education. And focus is supposed to be on education. That's a problem for me."

    She said there's not enough focus on dealing with mental health issues.

    Pike said she also supports mental health solutions but said that will take a long time and there's no time to wait.

    Pike will start her work in the Legislature Jan. 14. She said at least five other lawmakers in Washington have come up with similar ideas.
     
  2. armedandsafe

    armedandsafe Moses Lake, WA Active Member

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    In other words, those people are going to come in to do their killing, so we must just let them do it, rather than trying to stop them.

    Oh, wait a minute. Just noticed she is a Dem. I shouldn't have said that. I might have hurt her feelings or made her feel uncomfortable. :devil:

    Pops
     
  3. mtn1x

    mtn1x Portland, OR Member

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    Why carry concealed? Why not use a finger safe that is bolted down somewhere like in a desk drawer? That gun ain't goin' anywhere and the teacher would be the only one who knows the combo...
     
  4. wakejoe

    wakejoe Beaverton, OR Well-Known Member

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    Safes are broken into all the time.
     
  5. mtn1x

    mtn1x Portland, OR Member

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    In classrooms with 20 other children and a teacher?

    EDIT: Plus kids don't need to know that there is a safe or a gun in the classroom.
     
  6. wakejoe

    wakejoe Beaverton, OR Well-Known Member

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    What about qhen tue teacher leaves to go to lunch? Take kids to P.E.? So on, so fourth. Better the firearm stay in constant control of the teacher.

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  7. mtn1x

    mtn1x Portland, OR Member

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    IT'S IN A BOLTED DOWN SAFE. Show me a High School kid who could break in to that in the middle of a school and I'll show you a pig that can fly. Plus, they could just lock the door. I'm not trying to argue...but what about the guy in the movie theatre who lost his pistol? That's all I'm thinking of.
     
  8. wakejoe

    wakejoe Beaverton, OR Well-Known Member

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    Show me a kid that cant use a crowbar. Stop with the hostilities.

    We can not assume that the safety of the firearm is only threatend by a student. Janitors, for instance. Or anyone who walks in while the teacher is away.

    The guy with the pistol could not control his firearm. That is a personal error that does not permit guilt to be transfered to other carriers.

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  9. Jerry

    Jerry Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Nope...Liz is a Republican, not a democrap

    Jerry