Oregon A Portland Tattoo Artist Fatally Shot a Homeless Man. Oregon Law Says the Shooting Was Legal.

[Joe Link]

A Portland Tattoo Artist Fatally Shot a Homeless Man in the Parking Lot of His Business. Oregon Law Says the Shooting Was Legal.

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[Member 34319]

If I've ever read more of a hit piece on stand your ground as this one.

 

[Joe13]

Not sure how I feel about the journalist.... seems kinda all over the place

 

[turbo_vanner]

oops, I just posted the same link.

I thought it was odd Portland has one of the highest ratios of justified shootings to overall shootings in the nation. That and his non indictment go against some of the general trains of thought around here on self defense and/or jurys in Portland.

 

[11Charlie]

I'd like to know the full story!

 

[DB is Here]

What provoked Vinci to hit Hanley with the Asp? Maybe I missed something. Sadly this is what PDX & Seattle have become...Cities with people that should be kept away from the general public but instead they're foisted upon us.

 

[11Charlie]

What provoked Vinci to hit Hanley with the Asp?

This is why I need to know the whole story.

 

[bbbass]

Poorly written to be sure. Probably no editor over there at Moscow on the Willamette.

And what a long story, (I kept thinking it was finished and then nope, off we go again) not a reporting so much as a treatise on changing the law. "Williamson, the chairwoman of the House Judiciary Committee, says WW's reporting suggests the law needs to be changed."

 

[turbo_vanner]

What provoked Vinci to hit Hanley with the Asp? Maybe I missed something. Sadly this is what PDX & Seattle have become...Cities with people that should be kept away from the general public but instead they're foisted upon us.

The homeless guy threw a lint roller at a catering lady, who signaled to her co-worker for help, co-worker got Vinci to help. Catering lady said she was assaulted when Vinci came outside, so he pulled the baton and forced the guy off the property with it.

 

[bbbass]

What provoked Vinci to hit Hanley with the Asp? Maybe I missed something.

According to the story (if you can stand reading all the way thru), one of the caterers, who counted on Vinci to protect them, ran next door to get him because the other worker had flashed the secret sign that she was having a problem with a homeless. The homeless had been giving them all problems, so maybe Vinci was preloaded for a go at him. But Vinci is quoted as saying he struck the guy to get him to leave. That probably would have been assault had not Hanley thrown the thingy at the gal.

Vargas obviously has a different outlook on what happened then her co-workers.

 

[DB is Here]

This is why I need to know the whole story.

This.

 

[ThePhonMan]

I love this line: "In Portland, Oregon's self-defense law makes homeless people particularly vulnerable."

Maybe it's the homeless problem that's leading to homeless people getting killed (and not just by "stand your ground")?

 

[bbbass]

How could there possibly be any more story?

 

[bbbass]

This says everything we need to know:

 

[Certaindeaf]

What does his profession have to do with f all?
didn't click

 

[turbo_vanner]

This says everything we need to know:

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I'm still wrapping my head around the fact that THAT guy was not indicted IN Portland. Someone check the thermostat down in hell.

 

[bbbass]

"He plugged Hanley once through the chest."

"The law, Oregon Revised Statute 161.219, protects the rights of private citizens to use deadly force as much or more than nearly any other state in the U.S.—except perhaps Texas,"

"the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman, who physically confronted the 17-year-old as he walked home." (I thought Trayvon struck first?)

"laws that have been on the books so long they preceded the recent national debate." (Really? Kinda like that thing written by our forefathers eh?)

"Overly broad self-defense laws essentially give individuals a license to act as judge, jury, and executioner," said state Rep. Jennifer Williamson (D-Portland) in a statement responding to WW's reporting. (Tail wags the dog yet again)

Oh, let's bring in Connecticut too... THEY have common sense gun laws.

Oh, and let's get some quotes from a reasonable gun owner!

Just a small sample from the first coupla paragraphs. Wow, just wow!

 

[slimmer13]

I'm still wrapping my head around the fact that THAT guy was acquitted IN Portland. Someone check the thermostat down in hell.

How can you be acquitted if you didn't get charged with a crime?

 

[turbo_vanner]

How can you be acquitted if you didn't get charged with a crime?

indicted, my bad.

 

[bbbass]

Maybe it's the homeless problem that's leading to homeless people getting killed (and not just by "stand your ground")?

"Few conflicts provoke rage like the clash of homeless people and business owners. This month, the president of the city's police union called Portland a "cesspool" and criticized the mayor for not funding enough cops."

Maybe that's because the homeless keep pooing all over the sidewalks?