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Hello everyone.
My name is ***** ***. I am one of several people on this board who run a firearm enterprise. Many of you have met me, many of you have not. Many of you find me to be charming, knowledgeable and downright hilarious. Others regard me as the scum of the earth. Oh well. We live in a free country, and that is how it goes. However, in our free country, we have a free market and just like being offended by someone is a by-product of living in a free country, we have people being offended by higher prices.
Our free markets allow consumers to dictate what price they wish to pay and sellers to dictate what price they wish to sell. During the past four days, buyers are making a run on guns. Imagine the run on the Bailey Building and Loan, just in reverse with people throwing money at me.
Demand has gotten so high that vendors are curtailing deliveries of product. There is not a single PMAG to be found wholesale, or glock magazine, or SCAR rifle, or many other things that people are fearfully buying by the shopping cart full.
In the past four days, I have been reticent to sell merchandise but I have. Each time, I have tried to talk buyers out of buying in this environment and my concerns have fallen upon deaf ears and fat check books. The value of a number of guns I have ordered for stock has doubled, and in some cases tripled - with no end to the demand in sight and no supply in sight either. Each day that goes on, prices rise 15, 20, 35% with no end in sight. Each day, I'm able to sell for a higher and higher price. I don't like this.
These conditions make running a business impossible.
Some of you will complain of what is commonly called price gouging, others will extol the virtues of a free market. And that's fine, but something that people yammering on and on about perceived price gouging do not take is that one simple fact remains: the income derived from my business from buying at wholesale and selling at retail covers my business expenses, my personal expenses and supports my family.
You may think that someone asking $50 for a Glock magazine is highway robbery, selling a Colt rifle for $2200 should be considered fraud, and $75 for a PMAG is a disservice to your second amendment brothers.
I'd be inclined to agree with you. However, wholesalers are restricting access to product and every day goes by, I have less and less to sell. This isn't just black rifles and PMAGs either. There isn't a Glock magazine to be found right now. There isn't a Glock 19 to be found right now either. Yes, some dealer sold 100 PMAGS for $7500 earlier today. That represents $6500 in profit that was made because of speculative buying. But here's the thing.
If I sell that carton of PMAGS at $7500 and make that $6500 in profit, or I sell that AR and double my money, or I sell 20 glock magazines and triple my money......
I might have to live on that profit until a vendor sells me more product to sell. That could be a week, a month or a year.
Can anyone here honestly say that if their employer handed them a check for $10,000 for a week's work and then put them on furlough for an indefinite period - they'd be comfortable with that? I would not like that one bit. Everyone I know would be nervous with such an event, but that is the present reality.
I do not like charging anyone more than I have to. Those of you that know me know that I try to do good work at a fair price consistently. When a certain item is hard to find, I charge more like everyone else and when it is easy to find I charge less. With conditions the way they are, dealers have to get market price or top dollar out of economic necessity.
How would you like to see your favorite clerk who knows what you shoot, what your favorite ammo is, and what your favorite targets are and what lane at the range you like the most be unemployed because the house has no product to sell, no profit and is unable to pay them? I wouldn't want to do that as an employer and I wouldn't want to see that as a customer.
The business conditions have changed prices and the operating environment has changed prices. As such, I have changed with them.
Yes, this is the business we have chosen willingly but selling merchandise at market rate is not gouging or profiteering. It is simply economic necessity. I did not have a warehouse of Daniel Defense rifles or crates of PMAGS. I had some PMAGs. I had some rifles. The dealers that have the luxury of warehousing 100 name brand rifles are going to make $100,000 in a week in profit. Good for them. Their next delivery will be unknown just like my next delivery will be unknown.
Please keep what I've said in mind before you belittle anyone for pricing something consistent with what they are selling for on gunbroker.
An good article on the "gouging" from a dealer. - AR15.COM
Hello everyone.
My name is ***** ***. I am one of several people on this board who run a firearm enterprise. Many of you have met me, many of you have not. Many of you find me to be charming, knowledgeable and downright hilarious. Others regard me as the scum of the earth. Oh well. We live in a free country, and that is how it goes. However, in our free country, we have a free market and just like being offended by someone is a by-product of living in a free country, we have people being offended by higher prices.
Our free markets allow consumers to dictate what price they wish to pay and sellers to dictate what price they wish to sell. During the past four days, buyers are making a run on guns. Imagine the run on the Bailey Building and Loan, just in reverse with people throwing money at me.
Demand has gotten so high that vendors are curtailing deliveries of product. There is not a single PMAG to be found wholesale, or glock magazine, or SCAR rifle, or many other things that people are fearfully buying by the shopping cart full.
In the past four days, I have been reticent to sell merchandise but I have. Each time, I have tried to talk buyers out of buying in this environment and my concerns have fallen upon deaf ears and fat check books. The value of a number of guns I have ordered for stock has doubled, and in some cases tripled - with no end to the demand in sight and no supply in sight either. Each day that goes on, prices rise 15, 20, 35% with no end in sight. Each day, I'm able to sell for a higher and higher price. I don't like this.
These conditions make running a business impossible.
Some of you will complain of what is commonly called price gouging, others will extol the virtues of a free market. And that's fine, but something that people yammering on and on about perceived price gouging do not take is that one simple fact remains: the income derived from my business from buying at wholesale and selling at retail covers my business expenses, my personal expenses and supports my family.
You may think that someone asking $50 for a Glock magazine is highway robbery, selling a Colt rifle for $2200 should be considered fraud, and $75 for a PMAG is a disservice to your second amendment brothers.
I'd be inclined to agree with you. However, wholesalers are restricting access to product and every day goes by, I have less and less to sell. This isn't just black rifles and PMAGs either. There isn't a Glock magazine to be found right now. There isn't a Glock 19 to be found right now either. Yes, some dealer sold 100 PMAGS for $7500 earlier today. That represents $6500 in profit that was made because of speculative buying. But here's the thing.
If I sell that carton of PMAGS at $7500 and make that $6500 in profit, or I sell that AR and double my money, or I sell 20 glock magazines and triple my money......
I might have to live on that profit until a vendor sells me more product to sell. That could be a week, a month or a year.
Can anyone here honestly say that if their employer handed them a check for $10,000 for a week's work and then put them on furlough for an indefinite period - they'd be comfortable with that? I would not like that one bit. Everyone I know would be nervous with such an event, but that is the present reality.
I do not like charging anyone more than I have to. Those of you that know me know that I try to do good work at a fair price consistently. When a certain item is hard to find, I charge more like everyone else and when it is easy to find I charge less. With conditions the way they are, dealers have to get market price or top dollar out of economic necessity.
How would you like to see your favorite clerk who knows what you shoot, what your favorite ammo is, and what your favorite targets are and what lane at the range you like the most be unemployed because the house has no product to sell, no profit and is unable to pay them? I wouldn't want to do that as an employer and I wouldn't want to see that as a customer.
The business conditions have changed prices and the operating environment has changed prices. As such, I have changed with them.
Yes, this is the business we have chosen willingly but selling merchandise at market rate is not gouging or profiteering. It is simply economic necessity. I did not have a warehouse of Daniel Defense rifles or crates of PMAGS. I had some PMAGs. I had some rifles. The dealers that have the luxury of warehousing 100 name brand rifles are going to make $100,000 in a week in profit. Good for them. Their next delivery will be unknown just like my next delivery will be unknown.
Please keep what I've said in mind before you belittle anyone for pricing something consistent with what they are selling for on gunbroker.
An good article on the "gouging" from a dealer. - AR15.COM