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Man my home state is going full fledge commie.
They will be fighting NY, MA, NJ, IL, and CA for nations biggest loser awards
They will be fighting NY, MA, NJ, IL, and CA for nations biggest loser awards
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that's the beauty of socialism....rational laws are not desirableI swear society is getting more idiotic by the moment.
Senate Bill 64 is an amendment of existing 18.2-433.2 .
Nonetheless, the "existing" provisions contained within are interpretable towards firearm training.
I do not see that as fake news, Outdated, yes, but fake, NO.
Instead believing the call out of any unjust provisions against citizens regardless of state, or chronological relevance, is beneficial publicity.
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE NEEEEEWWWWWSSSSSS
Sections 1 and 2 are already on the books: § 18.2-433.2. Paramilitary activity prohibited
And they have been since 1987. Section 3 is a proposed amendment.
Article's "how this will be interpreted" is demonstrably false for sections 1 and 2...'cause it's already law.
Really bugs me when ANY news source doesn't do their homework. But c'mon right wingers...if you're going to bash the left about junk news...try to be different eh?
Edit to add:
Check out section 166.660: https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/bills_laws/ors/ors166.html
Yea, it's already law here too.
Let the panties begin to untwist
Your post with no additional, clarifying commentary leaves one with only the information supplied by the article...which leads one to believe that sections 1, 2, and 3 are all on the table as a newly proposed bill. The article, thus, gives a false impression and you propagated that false impression by not clarifying any context with your post.
Yes, the article writer should feel shame for their misrepresentation of the situation...but you should as well for not spotting it and propagating the falsehood. We, as a community...you and me both...have to do better.
Fact is, sections 1 and 2 have existed since 1987. While you may think the article's interpretations are correct, I'd argue that they are not simply due to the fact that none of their "predictions" have come to pass over the last 30 years. Their interpretation falters in the face of demonstrable evidence.
If you wanted to start a cause looking to repeal section 1 and 2...then you've failed. You've given the impression that you could shut it down at the bill level and that's not true...you'd need a repeal.
As for section 3, the only thing on the table...It's going to be a court driven rule. I'm perfectly fine if an assembly intent on intimidating others is no longer allowed to assemble. I'm not okay if peaceful, open-carry protesting is assigned intent that they don't have. This differentiation will come down to the courts, if this is passed.
Frankly, I don't think it should pass in its current state.
But, everything I've posted here has yet to be the subject of this thread....because...to be short and sweet about it...
FAKE NEWS.
Maybe re read the title instead of getting in a huff. No reference to anything you posted. Antagonistic rhetoric was not called for. On your word, life is fake until its perceived your way. Good luck with that. Must be real fun at gatherings.But, everything I've posted here has yet to be the subject of this thread....because...to be short and sweet about it...
FAKE NEWS.
The current method of control favored by governments around the world is to make everything vaguely illegal, then selectivly enforce laws against those they don't like. The fact these laws have not been used against people an mass does not mean they couldn't be in the future.
It could also be the case that we have not heard of them being used.
2. Any activity, undertaken without knowledge of or intent to cause or further a civil disorder, which is intended to teach or practice self-defense or self-defense techniques such as karate clubs or self-defense clinics, and similar lawful activity;
3. Any facility, program or lawful activity related to firearms instruction and training intended to teach the safe handling and use of firearms; or
4. Any other lawful sports or activities related to the individual recreational use or possession of firearms, including but not limited to hunting activities, target shooting, self-defense and firearms collection.
Maybe re read the title instead of getting in a huff. No reference to anything you posted. Antagonistic rhetoric was not called for. On your word, life is fake until its perceived your way. Good luck with that. Must be real fun at gatherings.
Ambiguity will always be used to meet one's own ends and it's a reality in our legal system - though I believe appropriately solved for with the system of case law that we use. Granted, it isn't impervious to abuse.
The Virginia statutes have similar exemptions as Oregon's (https://www.law.georgetown.edu/icap...hibiting-Private-Armies-at-Public-Rallies.pdf):
At current, they could not tyrannize a training group due to points 2 through 4. I haven't found any case law in Virginia to the contrary and would be more than intrigued if you find anything.
I can see what needs to happen. Every member of the militia, which is every American citizen need to do their duty. Which is to escort, push, pull, or drag these democRats from their perch, set up citizen courts, try, and then hang them for going against the Constitution. I would also allow them to rot from the tree as a warning to anyone taking their place. Our worst enemy this country has ever faced, and it is hard to face an enemy that always stabs you in the back. This gang of unholy. Godless, moral-less, branch bait, something for nothings one of their free-bees needs to be a short rope. The only bad thing from hanging everyone of those brainless something for nothings would be a temporary shortage of hemp rope. Something I'm more than willing to live with.Virginia bill to make firearms training an "illegal paramilitary activity" and felony?
“A person is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity, punishable as a Class 5 felony if he teaches or demonstrates the use... of any firearm."www.lawenforcementtoday.com