9th circuit rules no right to concealed carry guns

RicInOR · Jun 13, 2016

"The ruling affirmed the right of the state to have authorities determine what constitutes "good cause" to carry a concealed weapon."

Second Amendment ruling: Which concealed carry laws affect you? (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2016/0610/Second-Amendment-ruling-Which-concealed-carry-laws-affect-you)

"San Diego County and Yolo County, Calif. prohibit citizens from carrying concealed firearms in public without a permit, which can be obtained by showing "good cause." (A standard said to allow influential people to obtain permits while ordinary citizens cannot.) Combined with the state's general ban on open carry, the "good cause" requirement amounts to a total ban on carrying guns in public for many law-abiding folk. A Second Amendment violation? An en banc panel of the Ninth Circuit says no. Dissent: States can ban open or concealed carry—but not both."
Short Circuit: A roundup of recent federal court decisions (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/06/13/short-circuit-a-roundup-of-recent-federal-court-decisions-7/)

RicInOR · Jun 13, 2016

Peruta v. San Diego, analyzed

Peruta v. San Diego, analyzed (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/06/11/peruta-v-san-diego-analyzed/)

" The 9th Circuit in Peruta v. San Diego upheld longstanding precedent that theconcealed carrying of firearms may be prohibited. All 11 judges of the en banc court agreed bearing arms that are concealed is not, in itself, part of the Second Amendment right as that right has been traditionally understood. To the majority of seven judges, this was the only legal issue. According to the the four dissenters, the full legal context should have been considered.

Although there is some doctrinal unanimity in Peruta, there is also disagreement about judicial respect for the right to bear arms."

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csa_ap_hill · Jun 13, 2016

From what I've read they used a law in England of all things to come to this conclusion.
1. We won our independence from them don't use them as your role model.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2. And will get flamed but the second amendment was supposed to be unlimited.
"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect
the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us]
conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823
Now this doesn't actually go along with a right being unlimited, but it does tell us when trying to interpret the Constitution, bill of rights to use the one that best supports where they were coming from. Meaning they just came out of a war of which was started by gun control do the math

3. An infringement is a law just that! Not this mamby pamby "well as long as they aren't out right banning it then it's ok" Bull.

4.
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot
enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787
"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation,
the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier
against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788
HENCE UNLIMITED