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Thanks for all the great responses:s0155: I think I need to look at the PF 9 in person, and look into the archangel a bit more as well:) $$ is always a concern for me :p and this will live in the front pocket of my cargo pants. If the PF 9 will fit the pocket nicely then I think I will go that route. It looks like it's just a bit bigger than the P3AT that I carry now.
 

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