80% jig...rental?

[darkminstrel]

Have an AR9 that I want to complete and no plans on doing another 80% build again. Is there anywhere around Portland you can rent the jig?

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[VinnieBoomBah]

I think your best bet might be to buy one and resell it for a bit less and consider the difference the 'rent'.

 

[Alexx1401]

As mentioned just buy one. They are not a large investment by any stretch. If later you are really sure you never want to use it sell it. You need a router too and those can be great to have for lots of other stuff so again, buy one and when another project comes up you have it.

 

[JuglansRegia]

+1 unless you know someone that has one, most people just buy a new or used one, do what they need to do then sell it, or not.

 

[Duge]

I'd let you use mine if you were in WA. I had this same thought before I bought mine.

 

[Eveskcige28]

I'd let you use mine if you were in WA. I had this same thought before I bought mine.

I would allow somebody to use mine as well if they got me a new end mill. That would he my only "rent"

 

[Duge]

I would allow somebody to use mine as well if they got me a new end mill. That would he my only "rent"

Good call.

 

[Alexx1401]

I would allow somebody to use mine as well if they got me a new end mill. That would he my only "rent"

That would be a good "rental" price alright. I would love to let someone use mine for them giving me a new endmill for it. Have no idea how long they last but would be nice to have a spare or two

 

[Caveman Jim]

Be careful about this.....

 

[Alexx1401]

Out of curiosity I looked at Ebay to see. Figured they would not allow the jigs for sale and did not see any. Did see lots of the endmills for them. Then stumbled on one guy selling an 80% lower. He is selling it as a not real only a paper weight. It is an 80% lower. I had to laugh. Good way to get it up there.

 

[The Heretic]

Be careful about this.....

IIRC renting or borrowing the tools has caused some people problems. The guy in Calif. is an example.

"Build parties" are one example.

Just another example where the stupid laws are used against us.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

FWIW

BATFE Drops 80% Receiver Case in California; Fears Precedent

The BATFE reaches a sweet plea bargain deal rather than have a judge make a ruling on the definition of a firearm legally binding.

www.ammoland.com

 

[The Heretic]

FWIW

BATFE Drops 80% Receiver Case in California; Fears Precedent

The BATFE reaches a sweet plea bargain deal rather than have a judge make a ruling on the definition of a firearm legally binding.

www.ammoland.com

Roh won - in essence - but he has abandoned the business, and he probably spent more on lawyers than he ever made charging to setup the CNC machine. He tossed the dice and won. I would not want to risk it - it isn't worth the money saved.

 

[scarlo]

In a similar premise "rentals" are known as "demonstrations" and the word "rental" is taboo. From what I have heard, it is usually best to get one's own jig. Used jigs may have fire control group and safety lever holes out of round. May want to get extra side plates, plus an extra top plate where additional holes are drilled for the end mill. Especially when one can still obtain them. Usually the drill bits provided are cheap, go to a hardware store and obtain good drill bits. Take the first one slow, be extra cautious in milling out the fire control group area. Ensure end mill has fully stopped prior to removing tool. Plenty of cutting fluid. Make sure all distractions will not get in the way of concentration. A machinist square may be useful in the process. Drill presses are usually better.

 

[Mygrainman]

I was once told by a friend that he would never lend or rent his jig out.
He would however consider selling it for a reasonable price, and buying it back a few days later... if the purchaser decided he didn't want it anymore.
That way if something happens, like the milling of that particular EPL caused a catastrophic meltdown of a polar icecap or whatnot, he wouldn't be responsible because it wasn't his jig. He, like 99.9% of the stand up, law abiding firearms enthusiasts that I have had the pleasure to meet... is a reasonable fella, and understands these are tough times. He wouldn't hesitate to buy the jig back, minus the wear and tear on the bits and mills etc..
If I was the owner of a jig, that's how I'd go about it. Maybe a generic bill of sale each way...Just to be safe.

 

[darkminstrel]

I'd already checked into the legality. It's grey, from all reports, thus my phrasing the subject and body as questions. Place in WA rents the old 80%Arms jig, but that one is just plain agonising to work with. I can probably pick up a 5d, but that's stretching my budget. I really want to get this done as I was invited to a gathering in a couple weeks, but if it's not in the cards then I'm happy to shelve it and wait for tax time to get it done right.

 

[Alexx1401]

I'd already checked into the legality. It's grey, from all reports, thus my phrasing the subject and body as questions. Place in WA rents the old 80%Arms jig, but that one is just plain agonising to work with. I can probably pick up a 5d, but that's stretching my budget. I really want to get this done as I was invited to a gathering in a couple weeks, but if it's not in the cards then I'm happy to shelve it and wait for tax time to get it done right.

The 5D is a couple hundred, well worth it when you see them. They are VERY well made. They also sell endmills that thread onto the router which are very nice. Made the job of milling one of these out super easy. You may think you do not want another now but get the jig anyway. After I did my first one it was so damn much fun shooting the gun I have got to make more.

 

[rdb241]

I have loaned a couple of members here My HK tooling to bend flats. In both cases it came back unharmed. Loaning tooling is not an issue as long as the person you lent it to, does all the work and not the owner of the tool. I even had a couple of WAC members come to my house and use my tooling. I sat and watched but did not take part in the process. I told them what to do and they did it themselves.

 

[rdb241]

The 5D is a couple hundred, well worth it when you see them. They are VERY well made. They also sell endmills that thread onto the router which are very nice. Made the job of milling one of these out super easy. You may think you do not want another now but get the jig anyway. After I did my first one it was so damn much fun shooting the gun I have got to make more.

I got this one before I ever saw a 5D. They are almost identical. I won't say how many buy I have done many receivers with this jig.

 

[Caveman Jim]

In a similar premise "rentals" are known as "demonstrations" and the word "rental" is taboo. From what I have heard, it is usually best to get one's own jig. Used jigs may have fire control group and safety lever holes out of round. May want to get extra side plates, plus an extra top plate where additional holes are drilled for the end mill. Especially when one can still obtain them. Usually the drill bits provided are cheap, go to a hardware store and obtain good drill bits. Take the first one slow, be extra cautious in milling out the fire control group area. Ensure end mill has fully stopped prior to removing tool. Plenty of cutting fluid. Make sure all distractions will not get in the way of concentration. A machinist square may be useful in the process. Drill presses are usually better.

Many Jig manufacturers recommend WD40 as a lubricant but I've switched to Tap cutting fluid, it's leaps and bounds better.