5.56 NATO vs .223 Remington

[Gunner3456]

If SHTF is a consideration, then I agree that sticking with either the cartridges of our forces (5.56x45/7.62x51) or those of the other potential combatant so scrounging ammo could help out. I guess it depends on how far we want to go down that road (scrounging) we want to go. It is conceivable that repair parts would also be necessary, in which case the initial firearm itself should be one used by one of the combatants, not a highly customized one like a piston AR. But I think that gets into an entire other thread.

Certainly, staying with either 5.56x45 or 7.62x51 would make things easier. And the 5.56x45 military ammo will make it to 600 yards, just not with much r power in the 5.56, and military ball isn't known for terrific accuracy in either cartridge....sniper ammo excluded.

In the worst scenario I can imagine, there might be some NATO caliber weapons and/or ammo left around.

 

[41mag]

Where are public 600 yard ranges available?

 

[PBinWA]

Where are public 600 yard ranges available?

Douglas Ridge: http://www.douglasridge.org/

But it's not public - you have to join.

 

[twoclones]

Where are public 600 yard ranges available?

The Rattlesnake Mountain Shooting Facility near Benton City, WA has a 1,000 yard range which is open for 'events'. Non-member fee is $5 if it's like their other ranges...

http://www.tcsa.info/600yd2.htm

 

[the4thshake]

You can join Tri County Gun Club and shoot 600 yards on Tuesday evenings and once a month on a Saturday morning.

 

[madderg]

Just a thought, but if your going to hand load you may want to look into the option of a 6mm/223. Better legs down range and less wind drift... and it's a simple conversion. You can even get a pre-chambered and threaded barrel from several places...I know, just what you need...more options!! Good shooting, Gary

 

[Stomper]

What are ya'lls thoughts about the 6.8(REM)SPC? I have a virgin AR lower that's stamped w/ 6.8REM and I'm on the fence to go Grendel or SPC... in either case, I'm going to build a 6.Xmm AR, just for giggles if nothing else.

 

[the4thshake]

The grendel is a better long range choice. There are more, yet still few, factory loadings of the 6.8. My vote is for the grendel. Have you seen the 6mmAR? I believe it's a grendel necked down. http://6mmar.com/

 

[NoAim]

I want to know where you are finding .223 for $0.26 a round. That is like $130 for 500 rounds. I want some of that and not Wolf is even that cheap.

Wolf is $250 here: http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Wolf_Performance_.223_62_FMJ.html

Tula is $215 here: http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Tula_Catridge_Works_.223_Remington_55grn_FMJ.html

Brown Bear is $235: http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Brown_Bear_.223_62grn_Jacketed_Hollow_Point.html

 

[chevytatt]

If it were me I'd seriously look into loading your own ammo. Not only for the reason that you can save some money, buy it really allows you to tune your specific load to do what you're wanting it to do.

 

[tac]

Venezuela still hasn't really recovered and Buenos Aires is a shadow of what it was.

Maybe I'm wrong....

Sure are. Last time I was there [September] Buenos Aires was in Argentina.

tac