450 Bushmaster, 458 Socom, or 50 Beaowulf

[titsonritz]

My friend just got one a those, said it is pretty accurate with a good kick to it.

I've got one in .45-70 it is a little brute.

 

[edslhead]

Have you tried the HSM 430gr bear loads yet Does a job on the shoulders even in my heavy marlin.

 

[titsonritz]

Have you tried the HSM 430gr bear loads yet Does a job on the shoulders even in my heavy marlin.

Not yet, sounds like something I need to though. 430gr, 1801fps, 3098fpe

 

[osprey]

There is supposedly a mechanism where those wide flat hardcast slugs actually don't penetrate as well above 1600 fps or so. After running 420 gr Wfn slugs well up into the snot knocker zone I gladly backed down to 1570 fps for my 45-70 carry loads. I haven't done any comparison testing on my own on this subject, but I do know my load does not lack in the penetration department. Here is a link to one write up on this phenomena.

Garrett Cartridges Inc.

 

[titsonritz]

There is supposedly a mechanism where those wide flat hardcast slugs actually don't penetrate as well above 1600 fps or so. After running 420 gr Wfn slugs well up into the snot knocker zone I gladly backed down to 1570 fps for my 45-70 carry loads. I haven't done any comparison testing on my own on this subject, but I do know my load does not lack in the penetration department. Here is a link to one write up on this phenomena.

Garrett Cartridges Inc.

I remember reading that, heavy projectiles at moderate velocities out penetrate deeper than higher velocity rounds.

 

[Mica]

If you can make it down to Eugene. I would take you out and let you shoot my 450.
Just a fair warning though. Big bore black rifles can be a bit addictive.
Not like 44 cal. addictive but close.
My next build will be the 458 socom eventually.

 

[osprey]

I remember reading that, heavy projectiles at moderate velocities out penetrate deeper than higher velocity rounds.

I take Garretts "science" with a healthy dose of salt as he is often full of himself and onesided in his beliefs. My thoughts on this topic though conveniently align with his, mostly because I am a wuss these days when it comes to excess recoil .