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45 ACP Shot Shell

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Redneck Rampage, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. Redneck Rampage

    Redneck Rampage Rainier, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Well I got boarded and made a set of 45 acp dies for making shot shell.

    They use 308 cases necked an cut down.

    .410 wad

    Right know I am working up a load for them. But don't have it right yet.

    Has anyone loaded 45acp shot shells? and if so What powder did you use?

    I have found data on Win 231 but I can not find any up here were I live.

    308 case necked down
     
  2. Matt45

    Matt45 SE SPOKANE COUNTY New Member

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    This is one of the cooler things I've seen in a while....what brand die did you use? You cut down a re-sizing, and crimp die, correct? How'd you do it? Lathe? Were there any other changes made?

    IIRC, the CCI shotshells use a clear disk on top of the shot. Have you considered using something like a .44 black powder wad to ensure you retain the shot?

    I couldn't venture a guess on powder/load, but it would seem to me that a faster buring powder might be called for because of the slickness of the .410 wad and realitive lightweight. It'll be pushed out the barrel a helluva lot easier than a 230 gr FMJ or LRN...
     
  3. Redneck Rampage

    Redneck Rampage Rainier, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Thanks I found a set of prints an tried making it.
    I didn't use any dies, those are 3 7/8-14 grade 8 bolts.
    Everything was tuned on my lathe. Took a few hours to build but not bad.
    Made a punch to cut my own shot covers out of transparency paper, they work great.
    I have not played with the shell lately trying to get some powder right know.
     
  4. old_heli_logger

    old_heli_logger Hillsboro, Oregon Member

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    Nice!! Good job!
     
  5. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    Heh, I actually have an original set of the RCBS shotshell dies I found at a yard sale for $10. There's a note in it that talks about what the guy who used them before me did. I'll dig it out and photocopy the note.
     
  6. Redneck Rampage

    Redneck Rampage Rainier, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The last set I saw the guy wanted $200 for them. you got a score for $10.
     
  7. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    RCBS still sells them as a custom order die set, also I havn't gotten around to digging that die set out, I'll try to do it when I get home from work
     
  8. GeneSimm7@aol.com

    GeneSimm7@aol.com Pennsylvania New Member

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    Why didn't you use 45 acp brass?
     
  9. coop44

    coop44 Tacoma ,WA Well-Known Member

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    Well done!! But "boarded"? Really?
     
  10. Redneck Rampage

    Redneck Rampage Rainier, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Because 45acp brass is to short to make a shot shell out of, So bye using a 308 you get the length you need to make the shell.

    Yup I can work with metal but still mess up spelling. lol
     
  11. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    You can also use .44 Auto-Rim, but good luck finding some of that brass just laying around. Also, .45 WinMag is another brass you can use. Again, good luck just finding some laying around, it is available from starline for about .50c apiece.
     
  12. parsons_12b

    parsons_12b LaPine Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Redneck good job on that keep us posted on how it goes if you need help testing it Im open
     
  13. Redneck Rampage

    Redneck Rampage Rainier, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I have see 30-06 brass used but 308 has a better case head to work with.

    I am looking for powder still I might need to look in Portland for some next time I am down there.
     
  14. Larry65

    Larry65 New Mexico New Member

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  15. Redneck Rampage

    Redneck Rampage Rainier, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I have seen Mil Spec rounds like the ones you are talking about used in the jungle in the 60's if I remember the write up right.It was a 45acp shot shell with a 00 bb in the end. I think they also had some that were 2 or 3 ball.
     
  16. tdb59

    tdb59 OR Active Member

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    Handloader # 80 had an article with load data, as well as American Rifleman in the late 1970s and early 1980s. I will dig in the archives.
    .308 brass needs to be used for the correct extractor groove cut. .30-06 brass, and its derivatives, has a thin extractor groove, and can cause extractor failures in an autoloader.

    These loads fired in a revolver, will often cause complete lockup due to setback of the fired case.