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45-70 250 gr lead?

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by mikeybuck, Sep 29, 2014.

  1. mikeybuck

    mikeybuck Clark county Active Member

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    Picked up at a gun show a while ago some .458 250 gr lead bullets for the 45/70.... they where cheap, and I figured they could be cheap plinking rounds.
    my problem is, I can't find any load data for a 250 gr lead slug. I'm almost thinking these are for something else?
    They all measure out at 0.458, and weight is all mostly right at 250. Gr.

    New to the 45-70, all I've ever reloaded for was 44 mag.

    Any help?
     
  2. mikeybuck

    mikeybuck Clark county Active Member

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  3. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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  4. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Going to lubrisize them?
     
  5. OFADAN

    OFADAN Brownsville, OR Well-Known Member

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    Hum...250 grain semi-wadcutters lead bullets might be for a .45 Colt handgun perhaps and not a .45 2 1/8" or 45/70 as it is most commonly referred to as...
     
  6. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    If you want to plink with that 45/70, it's a big case, so pick a powder that will fill it over half way. Try Lyman's Book of Cast Bullets. Remember, "Trap Doors" use a lighter load than the newer lever guns.
    For garage shooting, the "Quick Draw" .45 wax bullets and a primer are accurate and a lot of fun. :p
     
  7. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    This is what I'm thinking.
     
  8. Throckmorton

    Throckmorton Florence,Ore ah gone Well-Known Member

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    wrong size for a 45 colt,they are the correct size for 45-70. Dang,my old Lyman's doesn't have loads for that light bullet either.
     
  9. 2506

    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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  10. Throckmorton

    Throckmorton Florence,Ore ah gone Well-Known Member

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    way way too hot for a cast bullet,please don't use that load.
     
  11. mikeybuck

    mikeybuck Clark county Active Member

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    Thanks, next time I'm in town I'll look for that book.
     
  12. whiskeybill

    whiskeybill Battle Ground, WA Well-Known Member

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    Load it to the brim with Black Powder, 2F, and shoot away.
     
  13. ogre

    ogre Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I believe that is a .45 2 1/10 ;)
     
  14. Lilhigbee

    Lilhigbee SE Portland Visit Target550.com Gold Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I'm not a cast-bullet guy, but is it unreasonable to think these may intended to be lubed/sized to .453" for a .45 colt??
     
  15. whiskeybill

    whiskeybill Battle Ground, WA Well-Known Member

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    They do look like revolver bullets. That being said, Freedom Arms, the guys who make the 454 Casull, also made a 45-70 revolver at some point. I would say call Western Powders, the current distributor of Accurate powders. They would perhaps help with a load for a cast lead bullet with Accurate 5744. I shoot BPCR and have a 45-70 HiWall. Like I said, no big deal to just get 100% load density with Black Powder, put in a wad, seat the bullet, and squeeze it off. I don't know how hard these bullets are, and you definitely have to lube them before loading. Not gas checked, so keep the velocity to around 1200-1300 fps, even with smokeless powder.