45-70 250 gr lead?

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by mikeybuck, Sep 29, 2014.

  1. mikeybuck

    mikeybuck
    Clark county
    Active Member

    Messages:
    259
    Likes Received:
    234
    Picked up at a gun show a while ago some .458 250 gr lead bullets for the 45/70.... they where cheap, and I figured they could be cheap plinking rounds.
    my problem is, I can't find any load data for a 250 gr lead slug. I'm almost thinking these are for something else?
    They all measure out at 0.458, and weight is all mostly right at 250. Gr.

    New to the 45-70, all I've ever reloaded for was 44 mag.

    Any help?
     
  2. mikeybuck

    mikeybuck
    Clark county
    Active Member

    Messages:
    259
    Likes Received:
    234
    uploadfromtaptalk1412050437740.jpg
     
  3. deadeye

    deadeye
    Albany,OR.
    Moderator Staff Member

    Messages:
    4,261
    Likes Received:
    2,434
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2014
  4. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,857
    Likes Received:
    10,583
    Going to lubrisize them?
     
  5. OFADAN

    OFADAN
    Brownsville, OR
    Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    938
    Likes Received:
    250
    Hum...250 grain semi-wadcutters lead bullets might be for a .45 Colt handgun perhaps and not a .45 2 1/8" or 45/70 as it is most commonly referred to as...
     
  6. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack
    Wet-Stern Washington
    Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    2,057
    Likes Received:
    2,595
    If you want to plink with that 45/70, it's a big case, so pick a powder that will fill it over half way. Try Lyman's Book of Cast Bullets. Remember, "Trap Doors" use a lighter load than the newer lever guns.
    For garage shooting, the "Quick Draw" .45 wax bullets and a primer are accurate and a lot of fun. :p
     
  7. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up
    NW USA
    Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,738
    Likes Received:
    2,062
    This is what I'm thinking.
     
  8. Throckmorton

    Throckmorton
    Florence,Ore ah gone
    Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,407
    Likes Received:
    212
    wrong size for a 45 colt,they are the correct size for 45-70. Dang,my old Lyman's doesn't have loads for that light bullet either.
     
  9. 2506

    2506
    Seattle
    Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,424
    Likes Received:
    871
  10. Throckmorton

    Throckmorton
    Florence,Ore ah gone
    Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,407
    Likes Received:
    212
    way way too hot for a cast bullet,please don't use that load.
     
  11. mikeybuck

    mikeybuck
    Clark county
    Active Member

    Messages:
    259
    Likes Received:
    234
    Thanks, next time I'm in town I'll look for that book.
     
  12. whiskeybill

    whiskeybill
    Battle Ground, WA
    Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    332
    Likes Received:
    342
    Load it to the brim with Black Powder, 2F, and shoot away.
     
  13. ogre

    ogre
    Vancouver, WA
    Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,134
    Likes Received:
    2,459
    I believe that is a .45 2 1/10 ;)
     
  14. Lilhigbee

    Lilhigbee
    SE Portland
    Visit Target550.com Gold Supporter Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    1,123
    Likes Received:
    2,723
    I'm not a cast-bullet guy, but is it unreasonable to think these may intended to be lubed/sized to .453" for a .45 colt??
     
  15. whiskeybill

    whiskeybill
    Battle Ground, WA
    Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    332
    Likes Received:
    342
    They do look like revolver bullets. That being said, Freedom Arms, the guys who make the 454 Casull, also made a 45-70 revolver at some point. I would say call Western Powders, the current distributor of Accurate powders. They would perhaps help with a load for a cast lead bullet with Accurate 5744. I shoot BPCR and have a 45-70 HiWall. Like I said, no big deal to just get 100% load density with Black Powder, put in a wad, seat the bullet, and squeeze it off. I don't know how hard these bullets are, and you definitely have to lube them before loading. Not gas checked, so keep the velocity to around 1200-1300 fps, even with smokeless powder.
     

Share This Page