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40yrs ago - Bad*$$ of the day

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by RicInOR, Apr 30, 2015.

  1. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    40 years ago, Saigon fell. You'll recall the pictures of the choppers on the embassy roof. They have been around this week due to the anniversary.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/29/us/vietnam-sea-rescue/index.html

    "On April 29, 1975, Nguyen did something that could have been ripped from the script of a "Mission Impossible" movie. He was fleeing from the North Vietnamese army with his wife and their three young children as communist soldiers crashed the gates of Saigon. For 20 excruciating minutes, Nguyen's copter literally hovered between life and death over the South China Sea as a group of astonished U.S. Navy sailors watched from the deck of a nearby ship."

    Read the whole thing.


    Stole a helicopter, flew out to sea, found the US fleet and dropped his family to the sailors, then he had to ditch the helo - a Chinook.



    He painstakingly learned the English language. He worked as a janitor at night while going to electronics school during the day. When he got a job at Boeing, he awakened at 4every morning and was out the door a half-hour later. A family in a Lutheran church helped sponsor his family. Still, six months after he arrived in the United States, he took his family off government assistance, telling them the United States was the land of opportunity.

    He just didn't want to take; he wanted to give back. He told his family they were going to become U.S. citizens within five years so they could pay taxes and vote. From his children, he expected stellar grades and told them college was non-negotiable.
     
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  2. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    I was 23 when that happened, had a sense of shame as I recall. All those Americans sacrificed by the politician's and we are forced to run away.
     
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  3. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    The high-level managers ...words fail me.
    I think on the individual heroism and sacrifice instead of the big FUBARs

    Ba Van Nguyen made a plan, and accomplished it, words don't describe it all.

    That evening, after dark, two Marine pilots died, almost never mentioned.

    Tong Island...

    Beirut Lebanon Barracks

    ...:(
     
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  4. edslhead

    edslhead Vanc Gold Supporter Gold Supporter Silver Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    There was a show on PBS about the pullout of Vietnam. His story was in that. Very interesting show. He banked the chopper to port and jumped out the left while just above the water. Heck of a pilot. Shows the men pushing the choppers over the side of the ships once the refuges had gotten off, so another one could land.
     
  5. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Friends and family fought in that war, it's something you don't forget.
     
  6. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    ...or forgive (politician wise)
     
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  7. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Hated Nixon but at least he got us out of the war. Didn't leave in an honorable way but at least the politicians quit killing our citizens.
     
  8. P7id10T

    P7id10T Cedar Hills Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    IMO, Nixon would have kept us there if it looked like he could win. He only sought a way out because it was destroying his public image. Both Nixon and Kissinger were out-maneuvered and out-negotiated by Le Duc Tho, of North Vietnam.
     
  9. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    My best friend was in the navy during that time and he was the one who typed up and sent the orders to have the helicopters pushed over the side of the ships.
     
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  10. swoop

    swoop Milwaukie, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I got out of there in 68, but even then it was obvious that it wouldn't end well.

    If you don't fight a war to win it, the outcome is predictable.