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380 Auto Showdown

Discussion in 'Handgun Discussion' started by MercMorrison, Feb 23, 2011.

  1. MercMorrison

    MercMorrison NE Portland, OR Member

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    I'm looking to get a .380 auto for concealed carry. I've been reading good things about all these guns, I just want to feel confident about my purchase. handguns that are in my crosshairs are:

    sig p232
    walther ppk
    micro eagle
    lcp
    bersa thunder

    the price for me isnt the biggest factor.
     
  2. cyclesarge

    cyclesarge Eugene OR, DUH! We're ALL in the NORTHWEST Well-Known Member

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    I looked at these and others, here's what I decided. The SIG P232, Walther PPK, and Bersa Thunder are all around the size of a Kahr CW9. The LCP (which I ended up buying) was a P.I.T.A. to shoot. And all 5 are .380 which is harder to find a decent selection of S.D. ammo as well as more expensive practice ammo when compared to 9mm.
     
  3. NoEcm

    NoEcm Seattle Member

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    For .380 consider the Kahr P380

    Just a little larger (and in 9mm) is the Kahr PM9 (polymer frame) or the Kahr MK9 (steel frame)
     
  4. PBinWA

    PBinWA Clark County Well-Known Member

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  5. orygun

    orygun West Linn Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I looked at two "pocket" .380s recently. I was after a polymer framed gun and I looked at the LCP and the Taurus TCP. I liked the way that TCP fit my hand. There was just a little more to hang onto than the Ruger. Personally, I really like Rugers and wanted to like it better than the Taurus, but it just wasn't to be. I bought the TCP. Since then I bought another TCP. Neither one of these has given us a single round of trouble.
    To top it off, they are not expensive either, especially when you consider that they come with 2 mags and a carry case.
     
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  6. Bajablast

    Bajablast Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    Plus it is the first Taurus made in the USA. I have one also, no problems at all, and light enough to pocket carry all day. I also found the grip to be more comfortable than my buddy's P3AT.

    If you look around on Gunbroker, you can get a new stainless slide model for around $250 + FFL. I got mine for $240 with Free s/h + $20 FFL.

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    PROCLAIMING----WOW----WHAT A RIDE!!!"
     
  7. AMT

    AMT Vancouver, WA. Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    I was looking at both the LCP and TCP. I ended up going with the the TCP. They are both very similar except the slide on the TCP stays open when the last round is fired, the LCP does not. I personally want that on all my semi's. I have shot Golden Sabers (which I usually carry in it) to Federal to cheap plinking Blazers and have not had one problem.
     
  8. turq

    turq Molino,oregon Member

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    Also might hold a CZ 83 [Keith's] I've got 400+rnds down with no malfunctions of any kind,all steel. Or a 9MM in the 75 Alloy Compact ie. PCR Wt. approx. 27oz. Good Luck
     
  9. MilesTeg

    MilesTeg Troutdale, OR Active Member

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    I have currently or have owned the following:

    Bersa 380
    Taurus TCP
    Kel Tec P3AT
    Browning BDA
    Sig 230
    Sig 238

    Of these the only one that gave me trouble was the Kel Tec with the guide rod popping out the front of the slide. For a pistol on the small end, I would go with either the TCP or SIG 238 (very sweet trigger and usable sights). On the larger end, the Bersa is no slouch and can stack up against the 232 without any problem. The difference is cost could go towards laser grips and ammo, etc..
     
  10. asiparks

    asiparks PDX Active Member

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    you might also want to check out S&W's "bodyguard". It's like a mini M&P with a built in laser, last round hold open and release lever, decent sights, runs about $359
     
  11. MercMorrison

    MercMorrison NE Portland, OR Member

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    that bodyguard looks great. i haven't even considered one, so ill have to do some homework on that.

    @NoEcm and PBinWA. I like the Kahrs too. I can't seem to find one for less than 600 for a PM9 or MK9.
    CDNN sells the Sig 232 in stainless for around 400 which is alittle more reasonable.
     
  12. magnum

    magnum Springfield American....'nuff said

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    I guess I'm the only holdout for the ppk. I have an interarms ppk/s. It's very accurate-fixed barrel, and totally reliable-6 different types of ball and hp. I've heard some negative things about the s&w ppks but my german made one is functioning fine. There are several ppk/s models for sale right now, not sure why. If I had the cash I'd pick up another. Very well worth the money.
    My .02 .
     
  13. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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  14. uban77

    uban77 Maui, HI. Luck favors the prepared.

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    If you can not go with the best, 45 acp. Then with the Walther ppk, go with 9mm. There are alot of small light 45 acp pistols out there. 308? you be better off with .22lr CCI stingers.
     
  15. CIPuyleart

    CIPuyleart La Center, WA Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I LOVE my P238. As someone else pointed out, useable night sites. Familiar (to some) 1911 controls (except the slide is NOT locked from being cycled with the safety on, if hammer is back). After testing out the LCP (grip too small/narrow for me), Bersa (too big a gun to justify it only being a 380), Sig P232 (same as Bersa, plus I'm not a fan of the Euro mag release), and Bodyguard (narrow grip and laser activation was a PITA), I found the P238 to be just about perfect (perfect would have been to have it in a 9mm, or to have it with a DA/SA setup like most other Sigs). Add the 7-round mag with pinky extension (mine came with one of each) and it fits my hand incredibly, hides easily, and is extremely nimble.
     
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    asiparks PDX Active Member

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    disassembly lever, slide release and safety... so one more than the LCR then.......it's also not at all bulky.

    If levers panic you, then there's the mini "glock" Diamondback...
     
  17. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    3 levers on the left side of the Bodyguard.. the LCP has one. Simpler is better
     
  18. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Marshall and Sanow indicate .22 Stingers @ 35% stopping power with one torso hit

    Same study indicates .380 @ 60% one shot stops

    I would never carry either as a primary, or even a secondary. our sole interest in these little guns is as semi auto derringers, last ditch hideouts
     
  19. DOA

    DOA Aloha, OR -185th & TV Hwy Active Member

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    My wife's EDC is the Bodyguard .380 and loves it! I want one too. I looked hard and almost picked up the Ruger which is slimmer by a smidge and the DB 380(read about to many failures, but love the look and feel of the DB), it's 'bout the same size as the BG. For us, the integrated laser and looks at that price can't be beat. No failures yet.

    Now with that said. I may pick up the sig 238 in the future too. Especially the new SIG Lady for the wifey.

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    I usually carry a S&W M&P 40c and S&W 360 .357 loads, when fishing XDM .45 in my waders. My wife carries a Glock 27 in the woods and fishing.
     
  20. Teufel_Hunden

    Teufel_Hunden Albany, Oregon Active Member

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    Taurus TCP hands down.

    Check ABG Buyers Corvallis.

    T_H