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Are you talking about .38S&W? They are a shorter case than the .38 Special and I have never attempted to fire them through a .357 mag. I own a S&W that was my grandfathers in the Air Force pre-WWII. The ammo is expensive and generally a 200 grain lead slug was(and still is) used, I believe. The goal with that round was "slow and heavy", which doesn't work as well as they hoped. Kip.