only have 46 pieces. theyre pre-lubed/waxed ring. semi flat nose from what i can tell. they mic at .356" since i dont shoot .38 super i dont need them and would gladly trade for 9mm or 38 bullets/ brass / supplies useable. by the way these dont load well in 9 or 38 casings, i tried. EMAIL ME if interested: firstname.lastname@example.org im in ballard.