Good info, thanks. But here's a tip: calling Multnomah Co a cesspool is probably not the best way to find an extra 1% margin to win. Those votes were surely there in Multnomah.36 REASONS WHY MEASURE 114 PASSED BY 24,972 VOTES.
Voter turnout, county by county as of 6PM on 12/7/2022 are shown below. Some of the results are pathetic. Predictably, the highest support for the measure was in the cesspool of Multnomah County, with 75% to 25% in favor. The measure led in Washington County 62% to 38% and Clackamas County at 52% to 48%. The measure led in Lane County at 54% to 46% and in Deschutes County at 51% to 50%. All liberal strongholds. But there were THIRTY TWO other counties that could have helped change the results. And for those on the Eastside who harken for "The State of Jefferson" and are always saying "The State is always controlled by the valley and we don't have any say over here on what goes on in Salem so why should I even bother to vote?", well, you had your chance and you blew it. 2,987,421 registered voters in the State and only 1,968,623 bothered to show up. 65.9%. That was 1,018,798 lost votes. That's an average of one out of every three registered voters who were apathetic enough to never bother to vote. Those non-voters should be embarrassed and ashamed. They screwed all the law abiding gun owners and the businesses that trade in the firearms industry because they were too lazy to take 15 minutes to fill out a ballot and drop it in a mail box or a ballot drop-off box.
1. Baker County
BALLOTS COUNTED 8,823 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 12,957 TURNOUT 68.1%
4,134 DIDN'T VOTE
2. Benton County
BALLOTS COUNTED 45,805 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 60,910 TURNOUT 75.2%
1,505 DIDN'T VOTE
3. Clackamas County
BALLOTS COUNTED 216,731 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 314,010 TURNOUT 69.0%
97,279 DIDN'T VOTE
4. Clatsop County
BALLOTS COUNTED 20,349 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 31,146 TURNOUT 65.3%
10,797 DIDN'T VOTE
5. Columbia County
BALLOTS COUNTED 27,549 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 41,568 TURNOUT 66.3%
14,019 DIDN'T VOTE
6. Coos County
BALLOTS COUNTED 31,727 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 49,195 TURNOUT 64.5%
17,468 DIDN'T VOTE
7. Crook County
BALLOTS COUNTED 14,163 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 20,819 TURNOUT 68.0%
6,656 DIDN'T VOTE
8. Curry County
BALLOTS COUNTED 12,783 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 19,183 TURNOUT 66.6%
6,400 DIDN'T VOTE
9. Deschutes County
BALLOTS COUNTED 110,422 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 155,275 TURNOUT 71.1%
44,853 DIDN'T VOTE
10. Douglas County
BALLOTS COUNTED 55,033 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 87,761 TURNOUT 62.7%
32,728 DIDN'T VOTE
11. Gilliam County
BALLOTS COUNTED 1,013 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 1,413 TURNOUT 71.7%
400 DIDN'T VOTE
12. Grant County
BALLOTS COUNTED 4,215 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 5,644 TURNOUT 74.7%
1,429 DIDN'T VOTE
13. Harney County
BALLOTS COUNTED 3,858 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 5,611 TURNOUT 68.8%
1,753 DIDN'T VOTE
14. Hood River County
BALLOTS COUNTED 10,889 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 16,261 TURNOUT 67.0%
5,372 DIDN'T VOTE
15. Jackson County
BALLOTS COUNTED 105,451 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 159,831 TURNOUT 66.0%
54,380 DIDN'T VOTE
16. Jefferson County
BALLOTS COUNTED 10,082 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 17,003 TURNOUT 59.3%
6,921 DIDN'T VOTE
17. Josephine County
BALLOTS COUNTED 43,425 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 69,714 TURNOUT 62.3%
26,289 DIDN'T VOTE
18. Klamath County
BALLOTS COUNTED 30,423 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 50,430 TURNOUT 60.3%
20,007 DIDN'T VOTE
19. Lake County
BALLOTS COUNTED 4,038 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 5,604 TURNOUT 72.1%
1,566 DIDN'T VOTE
20. Lane County
BALLOTS COUNTED 185,478 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 273,479 TURNOUT 67.8%
88,001 DIDN'T VOTE
21. Lincoln County
BALLOTS COUNTED 26,486 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 39,511 TURNOUT 67.0%
13,025 DIDN'T VOTE
22. Linn County
BALLOTS COUNTED 61,992 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 97,550 TURNOUT 63.5%
35,558 DIDN'T VOTE
23. Malheur County
BALLOTS COUNTED 9,268 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 17,554 TURNOUT 52.8%
8,286 DIDN'T VOTE
24. Marion County
BALLOTS COUNTED 135,872 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 221,038 TURNOUT 61.5%
85,166 DIDN'T VOTE
25. Morrow County
BALLOTS COUNTED 4,129 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 7,010 TURNOUT 58.9%
2,881 DIDN'T VOTE
26. Multnomah County
BALLOTS COUNTED 368,674 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 566,617 TURNOUT 65.1%
197,943 DIDN'T VOTE
27. Polk County
BALLOTS COUNTED 41,826 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 62,874 TURNOUT 66.5%
21,048 DIDN'T VOTE
28. Sherman County
BALLOTS COUNTED 1,051 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 1,457 TURNOUT 72.1%
406 DIDN'T VOTE
29. Tillamook County
BALLOTS COUNTED 14,741 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 21,194 TURNOUT 69.6%
6,453 DIDN'T VOTE
30. Umatilla County
BALLOTS COUNTED 25,351 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 48,555 TURNOUT 52.2%
23,204 DIDN'T VOTE
31. Union County
BALLOTS COUNTED 12,640 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 19,246 TURNOUT 65.7%
6,606 DIDN'T VOTE
32. Wallowa County
BALLOTS COUNTED 4,651 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 6,323 TURNOUT 73.6%
1,672 DIDN'T VOTE
33. Wasco County
BALLOTS COUNTED 11,515 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 18,517 TURNOUT 62.2%
7,002 DIDN'T VOTE
34. Washington County
BALLOTS COUNTED 257,479 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 385,718 TURNOUT 66.8%
128,239 DIDN'T VOTE
35. Wheeler County
BALLOTS COUNTED 842 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 1,074 TURNOUT 78.4%
232 DIDN'T VOTE
36. Yamhill County
BALLOTS COUNTED 49,849 ACTIVE REGISTERED VOTERS 75,369 TURNOUT 66.1%
25,520 DIDN'T VOTE
We got screwed because of voter apathy.
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36 REASONS WHY MEASURE 114 PASSED BY 24,972 VOTES.
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Good info, thanks. But here's a tip: calling Multnomah Co a cesspool is probably not the best way to find an extra 1% margin to win. Those votes were surely there in Multnomah.
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I haven't seen it. Ballots are scanned and counted using computers. Minimal numbers of people are involved, some are contractors. In the video about election fraud in Oregon it was determined the code on the return envelope could be used to determine the person's political party. Optical character reading software is 10's of thousand lines of code. Who's to say there isn't something going on there ?
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And I would like to see actual evidence of dead people voting* but I'm not holding my breath
*OK, truth be told, I do know of some cases of people using dead relatives ballots to vote, but that isn't what the conspiracy theories are about so . . .
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Yeah....."CONSPIRACY".
So......is that defined by? "Two or more."
BUT, But, but.....
Then.....the LEFT likes to say......
"If we could save just one life."
So, what about?
"If just one dead person votes."
Nah, forgetaboutit......
Some people might be thinking that I'm talking, "Apples to Oranges".
Aloha, Mark
So......is that defined by? "Two or more."
BUT, But, but.....
Then.....the LEFT likes to say......
"If we could save just one life."
So, what about?
"If just one dead person votes."
Nah, forgetaboutit......
Some people might be thinking that I'm talking, "Apples to Oranges".
Aloha, Mark
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This is operating on a whole different level than what you are describing. PEW charitable trusts are one of the bank-rollers. Why are they involved in this outfit ? Why is Oregon a partner ?
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One of several or many. Gun owners need to come up better "what we're for" messaging. What we're against is not working with majorities in blue or purple states.
The Anti-Gun crowd (sponsored by billionaires) changed messaging to "gun safety", which is totally false, doesn't reduce crime or suicides (the majority of deaths by gun), but are never held accountable for results. So they win.
After all, who doesn't want "gun safety"?
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Personally I'd rather people do NOT vote on topics which they are ignorant of. I'd prefer they get educated but look at our school system and the media...
Well, I wish more people would consider voting to be a civic duty of ALL citizens, but turnouts of 65-75% are actually amazing considering that IIRC turnout for a midterm is usually somewhere around 22-30%. I'd have to look it up, but that's my recollection.
We actually did fairly well in turnout. But blamers gotta blame. This fight needs to be won before it gets to petitions and voting... it needs to be a cultural change. But with all the proggies living in the corridor, that is not likely to happen.
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This is why Lane County numbers were so low.I had my whole family's ballots returned, saying that they were challenged due to signatures not matching what they had on file. I know of at least 10 other people with the same result. unsurprisingly, these were all 'no' votes for 114. I have heard of many others that this happened to also. Who knows how many of these "challenges" there were. They sent a form for us to fill out, and return, but the measure was passed before we even got the forms.
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I got the same type of letter when living in Vancouver in Clark County. Naturally, I voted for Trump during his reelection and I knew it was a dirty trick
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Mail in voting did you guys in on this .... and this proof the other side has to cheat just enough to win ..
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The only answer is to get back to voting in person with paper ballots. ID verification and citizenship verification should be required to register and ID required on voting day. Tabulations should be done by real people with secondary verification by other real people.
Too lazy (or ignorant/stupid) to get off your butt to go vote?...then you should be excluded from the voter gene pool.
Too lazy/stupid to get off your butt to vote?...then you're too stupid to know what's best for yourself or the functional people who do participate.
Legitimate absentee ballots are OK....and some mechanism for the infirm should remain.
...and FJB
Too lazy (or ignorant/stupid) to get off your butt to go vote?...then you should be excluded from the voter gene pool.
Too lazy/stupid to get off your butt to vote?...then you're too stupid to know what's best for yourself or the functional people who do participate.
Legitimate absentee ballots are OK....and some mechanism for the infirm should remain.
...and FJB
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Roughly 34% Democrats. Roughly 35% non-affiliated. 25% Republican. The remainder, various 3rd parties (Green, Libertarian, Constitution, Socialist, Working Families, et cetera) even if 100% turnout from the registered Republicans, they'll lose against Democrats with say roughly half of the Non-Affiliated voters for either side. That it got so close on M114 says a lot.
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We have bad enough voters turnout watch it drop when the voters have to vote in person. I will always vote it is my right and others feel the same way. My guess is that many dont.
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Yep IMO even early voting shouldn't be allowed . Vote on the day the polls are open or wait till next year , it would fix a lot of the ills with the elections.
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Faith in the system vs no faith in the system? Yes, my lack of faith (trust) IS happening now.
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I think it is. Not necessarily relatives, but access to ballots. Filling them out. I think especially when your kid finally moves out and are bouncing around, they leave the home address and don't traditionally care about voting, insurance, taxes...And I would like to see actual evidence of dead people voting* but I'm not holding my breath
*OK, truth be told, I do know of some cases of people using dead relatives ballots to vote, but that isn't what the conspiracy theories are about so . . .
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Nah, the nutty theory is that there is a massive secret Lib/Dem organization that somehow has access to vote counts before anyone else and cooks the books with just enough votes from 'dead people' to tip the vote the way they want.
And for the life of me I can not understand why that is more comforting to some people than that the obvious truth that other side is better funded, has a better ground game and manages to set aside petty differences and not go all nO TrUe sCoTSmAn long enough to get things done.
We, on the other hand, do what you see when you read through threads like this one.
Now watch as I get attacked for not actually supporting 2a, being a secret "yes on 114" voter, called a troll, put on even more peoples ignore list and all of that because I have a difference of opinion on a non-2a issue (in this case, "voter fraud")
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That still doesn't account for unclaimed ballots or those used by someone else. Like a parent or caretaker.Nah, the nutty theory is that there is a massive secret Lib/Dem organization that somehow has access to vote counts before anyone else and cooks the books with just enough votes from 'dead people' to tip the vote the way they want.
And for the life of me I can not understand why that is more comforting to some people than that the obvious truth that other side is better funded, has a better ground game and manages to set aside petty differences and not go all nO TrUe sCoTSmAn long enough to get things done.
We, on the other hand, do what you see when you read through threads like this one.
Now watch as I get attacked for not actually supporting 2a, being a secret "yes on 114" voter, called a troll, put on even more peoples ignore list and all of that because I have a difference of opinion on a non-2a issue (in this case, "voter fraud")
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While better funding never hurts, look at the areas in question. It's the liberal hives. I don't agree with most and don't like the current iteration of liberals, but I don't go against their rights. I just see more opportunity to abuse it. Their mantra to vote party line at any cost.
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