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.357 Mag Ammunition and Reloading

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Crispy, Mar 23, 2011.

  1. Crispy

    Crispy WA Member

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    I picked up my first revolver the other weekend! I already reload some .38/.357 for a friend of mine , but what sort loads have worked for you guys?

    What suggestions/opinions do you have for factory defensive loads: SILVERTIP, Gold Dot, Hornady, Hydrashok, 110 grain, 125 grain, 145 grain, 158 grain etc.....

    Thanks for any input!
     
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  2. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    What barrel length ? What make of .357?
     
  3. Crispy

    Crispy WA Member

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    Good call!

    4.2" Ruger GP100
     
  4. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Sturdy gun, good barrel length. The Remington and Federal 125 grain JHPs are rated by Sanow and Marshall in their study of actual street shoots to have about a 93% one shot stopping rate when fired into center mass. I would go with those.. if the recoil is a bit much I would recommend the Winchester white box 110 grain JHPs
     
  5. nubus

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    Great gun, built like a tank and will survive anything.
    +1 on the 125 gr JHPs, Hornady also makes them in their "Critical Defense" line now.
    It's an XTP bullet with better expansion due to the little red insert.
    And they just look badass peeking out of the cylinder!
     
  6. Crispy

    Crispy WA Member

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    I was thinking about sticking with the Gold Dot as I already use mostly Gold Dot.

    Wish they made .357 Federal HST ammunition...
     
  7. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Gold Dot is good ammo
     
  8. Lloyd Braun

    Lloyd Braun Vancouver Active Member

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    accurate load that i use out of the gp100
    125gr xtp
    18.6 w296
    1.576 oal
    cci mag primer
     
  9. Crispy

    Crispy WA Member

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    Cool I will have to pick up some of that powder this weekend if I can find it. Thanks for the input! Anyone got anything to add?
     
  10. jib

    jib Central OR Active Member

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    I would use AA#9
     
  11. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    I use Blue Dot for lighter weight bullet .357 full on loads but I never post load data for liability reasons. It does make for quite a fireball at night though
     
  12. Crispy

    Crispy WA Member

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    Fair enough on the liability... But one would be silly to not double check a book (or several in my case) on suggested loads that they are about to load and shoot through their firearm. Fireballs are awesome, reloaded some 30-30 to get a fire ball awhile back and that was alot of fun!
     
  13. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Truly I'm not being elitist here but I've read where some fellow was sued for posting his "safe load in his gun" and the powder he used was a little different formula/batch (forget the details) than the reader had used, and or the users gun was not as strong. The reader had a kaboom and sued the poster for offering his load data. Even if you get it from a book reduce it by at least 10% for your gun, and note that changing brass make, bullet make, primer type can all effect the pressure of a load, as can the depth of bullet seating and many other factors

    There's one reloading manual written by a fellow who blew both his arms off with a high powered rifle cartridge which he overloaded long ago. His picture with his prosthestic arms is in the first few pages of the book. Reloading can be very safe and a lot of rewarding fun if you truly follow the rules
     
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  14. Crispy

    Crispy WA Member

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    Touche Blitzkrieg touche. It blows that some people can't seem to take responsibility for their actions, even if it worked for someone else.... I will not touch the whole legalities aspect and people suing other people in this sue happy country of ours..... I can respect and do not blame you or anyone else that would want to stay out of sharing their load data. If you want to share please do, if not... don't!
     
  15. Browning55

    Browning55 Seattle-Everett Area Active Member

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    I like Blue Dot in .38 Spl. Have used 296 with magnum primers but only for heavy bullets with heavy crimp - never for light bullets. I pretty much restrict 296 to .357 Mag and above. Have also found Accurate powders to be very good. Favorite was 630 but it's long gone now. Experimenting with Ramshot now.
     
  16. deadshot2

    deadshot2 NW Quadrant WA State Well-Known Member

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    Back when I still owned a .357 (I'm now an all auto guy) I used to load 17.5 grains of 2400 with hornady 125gr JHP's. Was not only accurate but at 1400 fps it had devastating potential. Was a bit of a "flame-thrower" and at a max load for that weight bullet it tended to make cases short lived. Could reload only 3-4 times before the headstamps started to "fade".

    "Go Fast, Hit Hard, Go Home". Everything one could want in a defense load for a .357.
     
  17. ron

    ron Vancouver, Washington Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    I have loaded the 357 for many years. For magnum loads I use to use 2400 found it to be inconsistent and a little dirty. I now use H110 with great success. I have tried many different bullets and generally any quality 158 jacketed bullet will shoot a little tighter groups than the 125 jhp's. But I found one exception!! The Remington Golden Saber 125 grain. These bullets shoot as tight as groups as any I have tried.
    Any loads you see on this blog or any where else must be checked with a loading manual. 357 mag 125 jacketed bullet, magnum primers, 18.8 grains of H110. 158 jacketed, magnum primers, 15 grains H110.

    38 special, 158 SWC hard cast, 5.8 grains of Unique. I confes I am old school. I have not tried the newer powders like Titegroup . Anybody have experience with this powder?
     
  18. deadshot2

    deadshot2 NW Quadrant WA State Well-Known Member

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    I know someone that blew up an XD in 40S&W with it. It has a real short spread from min to max. Seems easy to overpressure real quick with this powder in certain calibers.

    Have you used any 296 in .357 magnum?
     
  19. ron

    ron Vancouver, Washington Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    No I have never used 296. I have talked to many people that do use it but I have no experience with it.
     
  20. SAR1846

    SAR1846 Oregon Member

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    No experience with Titegroup... am thinking about trying it with 45acp & 200gr swc.

    BTW, Is the 5.8gr unique charge for .357 mag? or for 38 spl? Seems a bit stiff for 38spl.
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