I have a dummy round from an Apache M230 chain gun, these where use check the function of the loader, chain deliverly system and deloader. This has some damage to the nose of the cartridge and rim due to problems with the problems with the loader\deloader system but its still a realy neat item... I've had this since the late 80's when I got out of the service. $35 buck FTF I get some better pictures in the next couple days when there is some decent light outside.