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.308 Saiga Conversion Questions

Discussion in 'Maintenance & Gunsmithing' started by cascadianliberty2012, Jan 17, 2014.

  1. cascadianliberty2012

    cascadianliberty2012 DPR Portland Well-Known Member

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    I just started work on a pistol grip trigger conversion for my Saiga .308, and so far have a few questions:
    1- As you see, the rivet holes weren't drilled out "perfectly," is this an issue for when I mount the new triggerguard?
    2- What holes need to be filled in and what do you suggest I use to do that?
    3- I did not drill out the "middle rivet" because I'm not reusing the factory triggerguard, but also, I can't seem to get the triggerguard and plate to separate from the receiver. It looks like there are two more rivets or welds of some sort (you see where I tried to drill them out, but failed because my bit got too worn), thing is, I didn't hear anything about these two welds/rivets anywhere in conversion tutorials/instructions, how do I separate this plate and triggerguard?
    4- I have a Tapco stock and pistol grip that were on the rifle in its standard configuration, will both of these still work even with the forward triggerguard?

    BTW, the kit I bought is the Deluxe Conversion kit from Dinzag Arms...


    Thanks a lot for the help!

    Photo link: Saiga Project Photos by drivebyrachko | Photobucket

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  2. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    It shouldn't be a problem other than the trigger guard looking slightly off center. The .308 version has a couple spot welds holding the klinton plate to the receiver. You can either drill them out or file/dremel the plate down thin enough on the welds to where you can break the spot welds. If you want to fill the rivet holes you can either put some new rivets in them, use some of the nylon/poly "faux rivets" that just press into the holes, or weld the holes closed. The pistol grip/stock won't work because the new trigger guard will be too far forward. When you get the plate off you'll see the square hole in the bottom of the receiver, waiting for you to attach a real AK style grip (a real grip will come with the square nut and bolt). I think some of the stocks or trigger guards come with those plastic faux rivets, mine did from dinzag (or he threw them in).
     
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    cookie THE SOCIALIST STATE OF KALI - FORNIA Well-Known Member

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    What makes the Siaga nice is that it doesn't have a pistol grip, yet has the AK mechanicals. The Valmet Hunter always fascinated me,
     
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  4. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    I agree 100%, after a bunch of rounds that pistol grip is not very pleasant!
     
  5. cascadianliberty2012

    cascadianliberty2012 DPR Portland Well-Known Member

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    Thanks everyone. I ended up drilling out the welds with a cobalt drill bit, worked like a charm. I then filled the now unnecessary holes with JB Weld, filed them down, and painted over them.

    I don't mind the pistol grip at all, my complaint before was using a pistol grip with the stock trigger, what a chore that was! I ordered a new Hogue AK grip, I figured it looks better and will be far more comfortable than the old tapco one.
     
  6. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    +1, the S308 has one of the worst triggers since the invention of smokeless powder. Some guy at Izhmash polished off a bottle of vodka and said "Hey lets make a trigger that pulls up comrades!"
    Not to be confused with the shoulder thing that goes up!

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  7. cascadianliberty2012

    cascadianliberty2012 DPR Portland Well-Known Member

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    I think that's a direct quote! I hated that trigger so much. Made the gun borderline unusable.
     
  8. cascadianliberty2012

    cascadianliberty2012 DPR Portland Well-Known Member

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    I think that's a direct quote! I hated that trigger so much. Made the gun borderline unusable.
     
  9. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Congrats on getting it un-neutered. I have a Hogue pistol grip on mine and like it. I kind of like fixed stocks on AKs so I went with an arsenal warsaw length poly one. An AR style stock just doesn't look right IMO. I'm sure you are enjoying the new trigger pull with a surprise break.
    Actually now that I think about it I may have gone with a Tapco fixed on the S308 and a arsenal on the S12. I'll have to change that.
    Saigas are addictive and fun to convert, they should come with a warning other than the factory "annihilate this paper" packing paper warning
     
  10. cascadianliberty2012

    cascadianliberty2012 DPR Portland Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, and yeah the Hogue looked great and had incredible reviews everywhere I looked. I do like the collapsing function of the stock though, but I wish it didn't look exactly the same was what you see on a lot of AR15s.
     
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    cascadianliberty2012 DPR Portland Well-Known Member

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    Here is the finished product! Hogue grip installed. I've tested the new setup using my snapcaps and man do I love that new trigger!

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  12. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Nice!
     
  13. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    If you really want to class up your S.308
    Id get the CSS (carolina shooters supply) vented (slots) forearm and the Rifle Dynamics AK ti AR stock adapter.

    Both those really make the S.308 a slick platform.