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I am not trying to be judgmental when I ask this question, but I do not understand the point of .300 BLK in any platform that is not semi auto. What is the point/purpose?
The .300 Whisper was developed to be used in a standard AR platform only by changing the barrel and have a cartridge that was quiet and cycled the action.
If you are using it in a bolt gun, why not get a .308 which is more versatile and load subs for it?
Lighter how so there both short actions and u can get both with 16inch barrels im i missing something? Just a question not trying to be a @$$ just curiousQuieter than a gas gun, no action cycling. Lighter than a .308.
Quieter than a gas gun, no action cycling. Lighter than a .308.
I understand the difference between a gas gun and a bolt, that was not part of the question.
The question was why BLK vs .308 in a bolt gun. How much weight/size difference is there in a same make/model of gun between those 2 calibers? Wouldn't they be built on the same action?
OP expressed specificly to utilize subsonic ammunition.I understand the difference between a gas gun and a bolt, that was not part of the question.
The question was why BLK vs .308 in a bolt gun. How much weight/size difference is there in a same make/model of gun between those 2 calibers? Wouldn't they be built on the same action?
OP expressed specificly to utilize subsonic ammunition.
I'd say there are more factory subsonic loads available in 300 than 308. Yes you can make 308 slow, but that's like taking a corvette and putting a 1.5 liter in it. 300 Black is a civic, it's already going slow, but you can put a turbo on it if needed and it will go fast when wanted. However, it's better to let it go slow.I understand that. You can do the same with .308. A .30 bullet at subsonic speeds has the same ballistics no matter what parent case you use.
I know BLK is now a common round nowadays but sourcing .308 brass would be cheaper and more readily available. There are more guns chambered in .308 then BLK. If you ever decide you want non-subsonic rounds you can get more versatility with .308.
If someone just wants a BLK so be it. I was just curious the advantage to it in a bolt gun.
Nice AnalogyI'd say there are more factory subsonic loads available in 300 than 308. Yes you can make 308 slow, but that's like taking a corvette and putting a 1.5 liter in it. 300 Black is a civic, it's already going slow, but you can put a turbo on it if needed and it will go fast when wanted. However, it's better to let it go slow.
I understand the difference between a gas gun and a bolt, that was not part of the question.
The question was why BLK vs .308 in a bolt gun. How much weight/size difference is there in a same make/model of gun between those 2 calibers? Wouldn't they be built on the same action?
I'm not bothered by your question at all. In fact I appreciate it. Things that make you think sometimes open up other alternatives.I had not considered the factory subsonic ammo issue. That is a solid point.
To the OP, sorry if I hijacked this thread, was not my intent.
I have an AR in .300 Whisper that I had to have a custom barrel made for. This was long before the BLK was a thing. I had to make all of my own brass for it also. I only run subs in it, as that was the intended purpose. I was just tying to understand "why" in a bolt gun when there are other options.