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~$300 AR15 optic advice needed

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by datguy, Dec 14, 2011.

  1. datguy

    datguy Vancouver, WA Member

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    I have been reading all I can find on the topic. I'm at the point where I'd like to narrow the field and purchase something for my LMT AR. At this point I am thinking about the following two options.

    Leatherwood 1-4x24 CMR. It's available for $317.95 with a mount.

    Falcon Menace 1.5-5x30. It is about $245 w/o mount.

    The Leatherwood has a lot of favorable reviews online. I have read good things about the Falcon as well. I currently have the LMT iron sights on my rifle. I like the magnification that both of these scopes offer. This is my first foray into shooting with optics since childhood with my father.

    I appreciate any insight, advice, experience with either scope, etc.
     
  2. wayoutwest

    wayoutwest Polk County, Oregon Active Member

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    A topic I have been looking into myself.

    I am leaning towards the GRSC 1-4x...I talked to Ed at the Salem show couple months ago, really liked the scope.
     
  3. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    I have a CMR and really like it. If you search there are several thread on it on this site.......
     
  4. datguy

    datguy Vancouver, WA Member

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    wayoutwest, thanks for that suggestion. Another really nice looking option.

    Nwcid, the threads on here are what pointed me to the CMR in the first place. Thank you!

    I guess I should also say, any suggestion on a mount for a 30mm tube would be very helpful as well.

    I really appreciate the information!
     
  5. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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  6. Grommit327

    Grommit327 Buckley Active Member

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    A little higher than your price range but a very nice 1-4x scope is the Vortex Viper PST. Tons of features and quality and a warranty that is just as good if not better than the famous Leupold warranty

    Vortex Viper PST MRAD
     
  7. TapRackNGo

    TapRackNGo PNW Well-Known Member

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    This is out of your price range, but if you buy a Eotech or Aimpoint you can add a 3x magnifier to the back end. The plus is it can do more things, especially if you own a NV monocular.
     
  8. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    Vortex's lifetime, transferrable, no fault warranty can't be beat.
     
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  9. datguy

    datguy Vancouver, WA Member

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    I read several reviews online and watched a few videos. This looks like a great option! I'd rather delay purchase so I can save a little more cash and get the right scope the first time.

    My original thought was an Aimpoint micro T-1 and their 3x magnifier. The thing is the T-1 has a 4MOA dot. That's 12MOA at 3x which is a 12" dot at 100 yards. I don't like the sound of that. Especially out at 200 or 300 yards..

    Thank you for pointing that out. I read their VIP warranty details on their website. No questions asked lifetime warranty with no hassles, simply send it in. This has me leaning toward this scope..

    I have a friend suggesting the Nikon M-223 1-4x20 with Nikon's mount. Any first hand experience with this one?

    Is there a store in the Portland (or Seattle for that matter) that has a good selection of these optics? I'd like to check them out in person. I've been all over the Portland metro area and most shops only have one of the 1-4x setups on hand.
     
  10. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Go look through the Viper.I tried one out at wholesale in Silverdale and it sucked BAD.Everything on the edges kind of floated around.Terrible distortion.
    You would be sighting on one object and others would be moving around in the peripheral.About made me sea sick.
    Now it could have been that one scope...making me think you would have to watch their quality. Yeah lifetime warranties are great,if it doesn't take away from your shooting time.
    I do have a cheaper Vortex 6.5-24 that works great.So I am seeing some inconsistencies here.
    I went with a 3-9 on mine.The 3X isn't that bad to adjust to at close range and you can still use both eye sighting.
    (and my eyes are old)
     
  11. datguy

    datguy Vancouver, WA Member

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    mjbskwim, what 3-9 did you go with? Do you like it?
     
  12. Dutchy556

    Dutchy556 Bend, OR Member

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    I think saving up a little longer is a great idea. The Vortex scopes seem quite well received. I've been running the Leupold VX R Patrol for a few months now and really like it. 1.25-4x20, daylight visible reticle, mil/mil, etc. There's a pretty good review of it here. There are less expensive versions available as well which lack the exposed turrets and special purpose reticle but otherwise have the same features. For a couple hundred more bucks there are some pretty darn good low power variables available these days.
     
  13. datguy

    datguy Vancouver, WA Member

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    After a LOT of consideration; reading specs, reviews, forum threads, etc; and visiting every damn gun shop I could find with the models I was interested in I finally bought a scope for my AR today. Trijicon TR24R with a Bobro mount. Very happy with it thus far.

    Thank you all for your info and advice.
     
  14. eldbillbo

    eldbillbo clackamas New world samurai and a redneck none the less Bronze Supporter

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    I owned a vortex 1-4 for a while . i was impressed with it very nice glass, red dot hard to see in daylight but you could see the black dot just fine.

    i sold it cause i wanted to try out the accupoint 1-4 and eventually moved up to a acog . not because of any fault of either optic in fact i considered going back to a 1-4 . only stuck with the acog due to their battle proven durability.

    i also had the aimpoint flip to side set up . I really liked it as well and even though aimpoints are about bullet proof and probably the most durable optic on the market under a grand , i felt more comfortable not having to depend on batteries so moved on from there to first the vortex then to the accupoint and finally the acog.
     
  15. 2ndtimer

    2ndtimer SE Washington state Active Member

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    I am somewhat of a cheapskate, but I still want decent quality. I picked up a Redfield Revolution 2-7X for my S&W Model 15 Sport. It has the Accurange reticle and provides a little extra magnification for the bench while still offering improved field of view at 2X. (better the a 3-9X, anyway).
    I got it on sale at Cabela's a few weeks ago for $159.99 snd applied a $20 off coupon, so it was about $170 including sales tax and shipping. Haven't had a chance to try it out yet, but am looking forward to it.
     
  16. dwaineshort

    dwaineshort Vancouver WA Active Member

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    I had the vortex Viper 1-4x, and the primary arms 1-6xx. I liked the Viper has nice glass, but the PA is a awesome scope for the $270 price range. Plus the 2x more is nice.
     
  17. Boboclown

    Boboclown North Carolina Well-Known Member

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    Primary Arms makes some pretty cheap stuff. I normally avoid cheap optics after a few bad buys, but my friend buys stuff from them and likes them.

    Vortex is also good, you can probably break their scope on purpose and they'd still cover it under warranty.
     
  18. dwaineshort

    dwaineshort Vancouver WA Active Member

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    I been running it in 3 gun. I haven't had any issues. There are tons of videos and reviews on their sights.
     
  19. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I have a primary arms 4-14x44 and it kicked up a bunch of dust or flaking on the inside after a few rounds. These are all on the inside of the scope since they light up like a Christmas tree with the illuminated reticle on. But they are going to warranty it so I'll see.

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  20. ChiefStealth

    ChiefStealth Graham, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    I have that exact same 2-7 scope, same reticle. Bought it in 2011. Mounted on a 30-30. Good scope for hunting. Lately, I have mounted it on my AR15. Works well there, too.