.30 Super Carry - new Federal semi-auto cartridge

[bionic knees]

oh boy, equals 9mm performance and you can get 12 rounds in the shield, whoopee! I can get 17, 9mm in my p89 with one in the pipe. and .327 ain't all that hard to find, just gotta keep after it. picked up 250 last week to go with the 400 I had already.

 

[Mark W.]

So 30 carbine short? with my 125gr 30 carbine loads in my Rugar Blackhawk I am getting right around 1800 - 18050fps depending on load.

As far as I am concerned the only upside for me is the possibility of a couple new bullets available in .308" that would fit a firearm using .30 carbine. The super hard to find Speer 125gr FPHP (which was designed for the tube fed 30-30's ) is in my opinion the best slug for anything but plinking in a M1 or the few handguns in .30 carbine.

 

[Member 34319]

Got to sell more guns!

Invent a problem, invent the solution.

Gun companies can really resemble politicians at times.

 

[oremike]

So 30 carbine short? with my 125gr 30 carbine loads in my Rugar Blackhawk I am getting right around 1800 - 18050fps depending on load.

As far as I am concerned the only upside for me is the possibility of a couple new bullets available in .308" that would fit a firearm using .30 carbine. The super hard to find Speer 125gr FPHP (which was designed for the tube fed 30-30's ) is in my opinion the best slug for anything but plinking in a M1 or the few handguns in .30 carbine.

the 30 super uses .312 bullets

 

[The Heretic]

As far as I am concerned the only upside for me is the possibility of a couple new bullets available in .308" that would fit a firearm using .30 carbine. The super hard to find Speer 125gr FPHP (which was designed for the tube fed 30-30's ) is in my opinion the best slug for anything but plinking in a M1 or the few handguns in .30 carbine.

Good observation. It could mean some good low power projectiles for 7.62x39 or .303 - maybe even subsonic.

 

[RVTECH]

the 30 super uses .312 bullets

And this complicates reloading the round due to the fewer .312 bullets available.

Add in brass availability (or lack of it), dies, Oh and having to buy the now one gun available to shoot this new round and the impracticality factor goes up exponentially.

 

[Z-PDX]

30 Super Carry

Introducing the all-new 30 Super Carry from Federal - the most revolutionary Personal Defense advancement in nearly 100-years.

www.federalpremium.com

Welcome 30 Super Carry: a new caliber for 2022

January 2022 saw a brand new pistol caliber announced — the "30 Super Carry". Announcement of the cartridge caused a LOT of discussion.

gunmagwarehouse.com

 

[Olderguy]

I'll stick with my 357 Sig

 

[nammac]

I'll stick with .38 Super Auto, bigger/heavier bullets, traveling faster. Then there 9mm +P and +P+ available. Just don't see the need for .30 Auto. Sounds to me like this .30 Auto is a solution in need of a problem.

 

[po18guy]

So 30 carbine short? with my 125gr 30 carbine loads in my Rugar Blackhawk I am getting right around 1800 - 18050fps depending on load.

As far as I am concerned the only upside for me is the possibility of a couple new bullets available in .308" that would fit a firearm using .30 carbine. The super hard to find Speer 125gr FPHP (which was designed for the tube fed 30-30's ) is in my opinion the best slug for anything but plinking in a M1 or the few handguns in .30 carbine.

Those Carbine loads sound super-hot. Primers OK? Sticky extraction? Anyway, for eventual .30 Super handloaders (or for hyper-velocity in .30 Carbine), PPU makes a 71 gr. .308 HP that should go what, 1450 in the Super Carry and 1750-1800 with safe pressure in .30 Carbine with some experimentation. Here compared to an ancient Herter's 110 gr. "Hunting" bullet.

 

[Koda]

Theres nothing "super" about this. They shoulda called it the 30 Compact since thats what their trying to solve.

 

[po18guy]

It is "one" answer for the millions of new female gun owners. Small, concealable, less recoil, lighter slide springs. Terminal effects remain to be seen.

 

[Alexx1401]

I could sure be proved wrong but, this looks to me like whoever dreamed this up will be looking for a new job before long.

 

[RicInOR]

Like a psychic!

Like a psychic!

The new .30 Super Carry from Federal? Called it. This is from my January 2020 column in Shooting Illustrated , which I wrote in October of ...

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[Nosferatu]

Finally! Something to challenge the market-leading 45 GAP!

 

[Member 34319]

So let me get this straight.

350 legend is released using the wrong bullet sizes, the consumers let them know how badly they screwed up.

Year or two goes by…

Now they release another new caliber, and again use uncommon sized bullets?

What are they smoking?

 

[Nosferatu]

What are they smoking?

Black powder.

 

[oremike]

Now they release another new caliber, and again use uncommon sized bullets?

The .312 bullet size may not as pedestrian as 9mm but it has been around about the same amount of time.

 

[salmon creek gary]

Why does the S&W Shield in their vidios have a grip safety like a Springfield XD? My shield has the hinged trigger and no grip afety.

Good eyes. The Shield EZ 9mm has a grip safety. Also a bit longer barrel & a rail for mounting a light or laser sight.

 

[Mark W.]

Those Carbine loads sound super-hot. Primers OK? Sticky extraction? Anyway, for eventual .30 Super handloaders (or for hyper-velocity in .30 Carbine), PPU makes a 71 gr. .308 HP that should go what, 1450 in the Super Carry and 1750-1800 with safe pressure in .30 Carbine with some experimentation. Here compared to an ancient Herter's 110 gr. "Hunting" bullet.

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Absolutely no problem with either pistol or Carbine. The extra 15grains of lead over the std military load is not a problem at all in the carbine. The std military load in the carbine is 1990fps with a 110 gr round nose FMJ. I'm getting 1900-1920 in the carbine with the 125gr slugs.

I double checked my chrono data for the pistol load and its coming in at about 1575-1600fps TOO MANY NUMBERS IN MY HEAD

Anyone attempting this should work up their own loads I will not share load data. It works for me and mine how it works for someone else I have no idea.

So if the new round uses a .312 slug its of no use to me at all. OH WELL.