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I want to see some of you guys hump all day with a rifle, shotgun and pistol along with a backpack/BOB and all the ammo you need or think you need for each in that bag. Dont forget about the water in the bag or hydration pack figured in the weight too. I think my fat arse could out pack some of the suggested stuff so far. Be kind on the comments it's not my fault you didnt think outside the box...............LOL