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3 converging events. Concern or paranoia?

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by ATCclears, Jan 10, 2013.

  1. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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    I'm observing three events and they seem to be converging/related.

    First, the debt. We are likely past the point of ever getting back to a nominal level. A friend who is a commercial banker said we are done if it hits $30 trillion. Some have referred to this as a "Hotel California" situation (you can never leave...). I think of it as a "coffin corner" with my aviation background.
    Coffin corner (aviation) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Second, the government issued Purchase Orders for a monstrous volume of non-military calibers of ammunition last year.

    Third, the irrational "gun grab" that we are currently witnessing.

    Here is my concern. It is much easier for a government to keep the sheeple in line during an economic collapse if the sheeple are disarmed.

    So, valid concern or am I being paranoid? I've never been much of a conspiracy guy, but it's hard for me to ignore the facts and timing of these three events.

    Peter
     
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  2. RoneKiln

    RoneKiln Western Washington Active Member

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    What kills most conspiracies for me is realizing that people are simply not coordinated nor competent enough in large numbers to pull them off and keep them quiet. Especially with modern electronic devices and media.

    However, convergence of events spawned through incompetence, greed, and laziness can be just as destructive. I'm concerned about the same events you reference, but not due to a belief in conspiracy. People are just really good at screwing things up.
     
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  3. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    The grab is actually very rational. A lot of people don't care for guns so much that they forget guns exist until a wave of violence breaks out. Every time such violence occurs, they demand an action, until they sink back into daily routines. My stomach is the closest to me :)

    And yes, you are just another paranoid person on this forum.
     
  4. watchman

    watchman SW Portland Active Member

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    There are any number of reasons why there is such a big push to disarm us.
    Your reasoning is no less valid than other theories. I have thought about it myself.

    When the collapse occurs, and it will, the only way the government could maintain nominal control would be through a disarmed populace.
    The form that government takes will bear no resemblance to our current government. It will be a military dictatorship.
    The only thing standing in their way is the Constitution.
     
  5. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    If you have means to establish a dictatorship, some 200 year old piece of paper won't be standing in your way. Stop being silly.
     
  6. JackThompson

    JackThompson Valley of the Demons Well-Known Member

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    Having the means equals disarming the people. It's the people's adherence and defense of the constitution that prevents a dictatorship.
     
  7. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    The head of the CIA can't keep an affair quiet, you think the government can pull off an entire conspiracy theory without blowing their cover?
     
  8. watchman

    watchman SW Portland Active Member

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    Exactly.
    Some folks can't put two and two together.
     
  9. gehrheart

    gehrheart fidalgo island Well-Known Member

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    They kept it quite for six months until they needed to use it to discredit him.
    Benghazi..

    But that just might be my tinfoil hat.
    Ya... I think there is something to all this for sure.
     
  10. WasrNwarpaint

    WasrNwarpaint Portland Well-Known Member

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    Im no conspiracy theorist, actually Im usually the voice of reason

    but given the govt financial plundering we've observed over the past 10 years or so,the insurmountable debt accumulated & the GWBush gang of crooks made it legal for private and govt employed to loose their pensions.....

    the US Treasury has dipped into the VA pension fund for debts....this is public knowledge

    maybe they need to disarm us....Id personally be horrified if they couldn't pay our crippled, mangled and dismembered Veterans..I cant possibly imagine just how pissed off they be at their government we have a couple generations of veterans to honorably take care of
     
  11. PMKN_PI

    PMKN_PI Milwaukie, Oregon, United States Active Member

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    Youre right, they cant keep from blowing their cover. The police radio recordings, blatant actors in Sandy Hook, un reported suspects and lies about weapons used have proved it.
     
  12. Just Me

    Just Me Peoples Republik of Oregon Active Member

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    It is no conspiracy, this country has been in a free fall for at least 60 years.
     
  13. gehrheart

    gehrheart fidalgo island Well-Known Member

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    Its still called a conspiracy because most wont or dont want to open their eyes to it...
     
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