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.223 anyone?

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by lazyeye, Aug 22, 2008.

  1. lazyeye

    lazyeye Corvallis, OR Member

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    I'm going to start reloading .223 for my Oly-arms carbine.
    I have the books and getting the necessary equipment as we speak, now I'm just missing a starting point.
    Normally I would just pick a recipe thats the right weight and work it up, but can anyone suggest a good "starting" recipe for a new rifle reloader?

    Thanks
     
  2. berettamod96

    berettamod96 Member

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    are you hand measuring your charges or do you intend to use a powder throwing device? This can be an issue in selecting a powder that really doesnt exist in the pistol realm.
     
  3. lazyeye

    lazyeye Corvallis, OR Member

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    Going to throw them. Upgrading to the big boy league.
     
  4. TMan1911

    TMan1911 NE Member

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    This was my load last week 24.3gr H335 powder, Hornady 55grn bullet, Federal #205 primer clock in @ 3105 fps. Another set was 26.9grn H380 powder, same bullet and primer, same case Win clocked in at @2989-3003 fps tight groups at 100 yards and 150 yrds. Frizzz brought the chronometer last week
     
  5. frizzz

    frizzz Clackamas Member

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    This is some data I come up with a BM 16" 1/9 twist using UMC brass and CCI 400 primers.

    Powder-------Bullet-----------Grain---FPS

    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.0 2789
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.0 2762
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.0 2732
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.0 2757
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.0 2790
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.5 2783
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.5 2750
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.5 2839
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.5 2818
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.5 2798
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.0 2792
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.0 2863
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.0 2848
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.0 2875
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.0 2872
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.5 2958
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.5 2893
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.5 2908
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.5 2930
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 26.0 2991
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 26.0 2996
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 26.0 3001
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 26.0 3033
    TAC Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 26.0 2978

    H335 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 23.5 2684
    H335 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 23.5 2746
    H335 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 23.5 2750
    H335 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 23.5 2678
    H335 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 23.5 2728
    H335 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.5 2869
    H335 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.5 2848
    H335 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.5 2882
    H335 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.5 2888
    H335 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.5 2888

    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 23.5 2559
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 23.5 2457
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 23.5 2495
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 23.5 2490
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 23.5 2465
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.5 2596
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.5 2624
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.5 2695
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.5 2643
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 24.5 2671
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.5 2728
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.5 2732
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.5 2789
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.5 2731
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.5 2753
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 26.2 2753
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 26.2 2769
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 26.2 2789
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 26.2 2759
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 26.2 2759
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.5 2745
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.5 2795
    W748 Hornady 55 Gr FMJ-BT W/C 25.5 2704
     
  6. TMan1911

    TMan1911 NE Member

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    Mr. Frizzz EVIL black gun people. Your cooking recipe is for the IRAQ WAR dude. :thumbup: Those data alone will last a man a years worth of testing and tuning. Have fun people. Good number!
     
  7. Oohrah

    Oohrah NorthwestSouthern Oregon Coast Member

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    I also use 4198 and BLC2 with good results
     
  8. Zeke Menuar

    Zeke Menuar Oregon Monsoon Central Member

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    RL-15

    Varget

    H335
     
  9. markw76

    markw76 Portland/Moscow on the Willamette Member

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    Get yourself a good reloading manual. Sierra, Hornady, Speer, Hodgden all print them. Hodgden is my favorite.
     
  10. lazyeye

    lazyeye Corvallis, OR Member

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    I have the Lyman manual. The idea of the post was just to get suggestions. Otherwise I'm just picking a recipe semi-blindly.
     
  11. markw76

    markw76 Portland/Moscow on the Willamette Member

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    That's good then. Some guys think the first step is to find out what someone else's pet load is with no idea what's safe per a manual.
     
  12. TMan1911

    TMan1911 NE Member

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    Reading is great but hands on actual loading and testing to find specific loads that works well with your rifle length of barrel and shooting habits is the best answer. Load ten of each variation, bench rest shooting, log your results in detail repeat the best load and do the math. This is where the fun is at crunching numbers and arriving at the correct one load for that specific rifle. Methodical no magic here!
     
  13. TMan1911

    TMan1911 NE Member

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    Beware of this character "Dan POTTRATZ" <slingemhigh0@msn.com" selling brass "Once Fired" at local gun shows. He is reside in Woodburn and have many email id above is one from craigs list. Those of us who needs honesty and correct brass history will not benefit from purchasing false and misleading products. For such a long drive to save a little one could loose a finger or an eye for such dishonest business transaction.
     
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  14. berettamod96

    berettamod96 Member

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    You place too much importance on "once fired" you inspect each case for defects and trim accordingly regardless of how many times its been fired. Its also probably ill advised to get anywhere near max loads on anything really. As long as you arent getting splits or case head seperation and keep the loads fairly conservative they are fine.
     
  15. TMan1911

    TMan1911 NE Member

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    This is my exact report! I am getting split case in the neck area after one load. Bought 500 rnds on your honor of course, seller stated that all is well as he sells them like hot cakes at gun shows. My report is about ethics and honest business I paid for 500 count I expect to have the same amount in working order first run. Side note certain percentage were questionable for use.

    Seller was mean and insulting after I brought this to his attention. He could easily replace the bad ones and keep good faith for future business relation. Make it a positive experience! I think he profile me for an idiot and dealt a one time sell attitude towards me. He made a good sell if you think I should have counted all brass in front of MC D parking lot at time of purchase on a hot summer day I might as well refuse the purchase. This was a learning experience for me, trust is for the dogs:paranoid:!!!
     
  16. chetterbob

    chetterbob parents live in christmas valley New Member

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    i load 24.0 gr of H335 with a 50 gr v-max bullet out of my howa varmit rifle with a 20in barrel dont know fps but off the bench at 100 yrds it makes one jagged hole. you can also find loads at hornady.com have fun with your 223 mine is my favorite rifle to shoot